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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2008, 05:23:55 PM »

Or (e) - getting fitted for a pastel blue smock as a Wal-Mart greeter.  Cheesy

"Hey there little girl....would you like a nice smiley-face sticker, or...how about a nice HD Radio from this massive pile of NOS unsold radios behind me?? 

"Oh, you'd prefer the sticker??  Well.......okay......."

Ha Ha!  Not a bad idea.  Hey, if he's so gung-ho on HD Radio send him out to the battle front (or rather the front retail counter) and try to sell this stuff.

I guarantee that Struble's biggest innovation in selling HD Radios on a retail level, will be a sign that says, "All Sales Final" (well hidden, of course).

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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2008, 10:39:15 AM »

It just occurred to me that we haven't had the pleasure of one of Struble's columns in a while.  The last one was in September.

Can it be that Struble is a) too busy trying to stem the tide of red ink, b) hitting up the banks and anyone else for more money (government next), c) realizing that you can't defend the indefensible, d) realizing that with every column he's written, he's giving pundits and critics more rope to hang him and his company with?


Or he has simply run out of material.  His previous columns were centered on a discussion of all of the money sunk into HD Radio transmitting equipment by large groups, all the free (but embarrassingly ineffective) spots run by the HD Alliance, and the deals supposedly made with auto manufacturers, chip suppliers, etc.  The basic premise:  "Companies have spent hundreds of millions on this stuff, so it must be good."

What I don't recall reading were any comments he had received from "real people" confirming that HD Radio is worth the "investment".  If listeners were truly impressed with his system, you would probably see a level of enthusiasm similar to that of color TV when it first rolled out.  But so few people (other than a dwindling number in the business) seem to care about this thing that he can't cite any instances of genuine excitement.

 
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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2008, 11:36:13 AM »

Look for the "tells," in poker parlance, in all the iBiquity nonsense.

First, they "projected" sales levels (which failed to materialize.  Call it "lying in advance.")
Then, when that didn't work, they tried the old comparison-with-last-year ploy.  Which instantly failed because you don't impress people with "THREE HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE IN RECEIVER SALES!" when it can be demonstrated that 300% of 24 radios is 72 radios.  Then it was "number of new HD products debuted" at the NAB or CES or whatever.  When that got shot down with the obvious truism, the only receiver figures that matter are actual RETAIL SALES, iBiquity retreated to a ludicrous "number of SKUs of HD radio products," a benchmark I've frankly never heard of before the wonders of IBOC.

To this date, notwithstanding scores of insistent demands that iBiquity release credible receiver sales data, the closest we've come is a vague claim of 330,000 sales through some point, plus a new flavor of umlaut, namely: "HD chipsets shipped."  Obviously sales really suck or they would be gladly released.

Another "tell" - the boastful public releases about station installs.  Remember when there were full-page ads in the "HD Radio" section of RW with tallies of stations licensed and installed?  That has stopped....in all likelihood, because installations have stopped. Something like 1500 of 13,000 USA FM stations are on-air with HD - AM-HD stations represented by a casual show of hands.  McLarnon's site last had a whopping 82 out of 4700 operating AMs with HD on 24-7, virtually unchanged from 15 months ago.

"And the LIES......just keep on comin'......"

When, oh when, are the heads going to start rolling about this debacle?  I just can't wait to start sending out congratulatory e-mails as they get fired.
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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2008, 12:02:29 PM »

Look for the "tells," in poker parlance, in all the iBiquity nonsense.
  McLarnon's site last had a whopping 82 out of 4700 operating AMs with HD on 24-7, virtually unchanged from 15 months ago.

"And the LIES......just keep on comin'......"

When, oh when, are the heads going to start rolling about this debacle?  I just can't wait to start sending out congratulatory e-mails as they get fired.

82 out of 4700 AMer's? Here in MA at night with all the hash they spread all over the dial like manure on a field it sounds like we get all of them at once, but... I have a 400' LW antenna hooked to my Sony right now and it still won't pick up anything in IBOC on the AM band, but in analog mode it will certainly pick up the hash on the side Grin. As matter of fact my Meduci with the same antenna sounds much better and is coming in more clearly.
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HD radio? 250.00??!! My 20 year old boombox sounds and receives better than that, you know the one with the paint drips on it and clothes hanger antenna that the painters threw into the dumpster?
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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2008, 02:45:01 PM »


 AM-HD stations represented by a casual show of hands.  McLarnon's site last had a whopping 82 out of 4700 operating AMs with HD on 24-7, virtually unchanged from 15 months ago.

"And the LIES......just keep on comin'......"


I would venture a guess that at least twice as many AM stations are now running FM translators than AM IBOC -- because FM actually solves coverage problems.   Here's an unofficial partial list:

http://www.rabbitears.info/amfmtx.php

Note that most of these stations are small-market independent operations that must use their limited resources wisely.  Many are Class D (daytimers) or Class C ("local" channel) stations for which AM IBOC offers nothing of value.   

Of course, that's not to say that HD Radio has benefited the Class A powerhouses either.  I've found that a majority of factory-installed car radios suffer from degraded signal/noise ratio due to spillover from the IBOC sidebands on stations such as KYW, WPEN, WIP and WPHT. 
 



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« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2008, 06:02:01 PM »

Looks like the survey is over, i wonder if they will publish the results? Grin

Evidentially there were two versions, one from iBiquity which included questions on the effectiveness of the Alliance and the Jacobs version which omitted that part.
Put this in Google and click cached and you will see the original page before Jacobs got his hands on it:

iBiquity HD Radio Questionnaire
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HD radio? 250.00??!! My 20 year old boombox sounds and receives better than that, you know the one with the paint drips on it and clothes hanger antenna that the painters threw into the dumpster?
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2008, 07:20:06 PM »

  McLarnon's site last had a whopping 82 out of 4700 operating AMs with HD on 24-7, virtually unchanged from 15 months ago.



Yeah, and of those few AM stations that broadcast HD you get a fluctuating figure as to who is doing it 24/7 or just daytime.  Sometimes you hear reports of AM stations that have HD on during the day, then it's off, then it's on again.  What a mess!

Last year, if you'll recall, Citadel had decided to stop broadcasting HD at night on ten of their 16 stations (of the 66 AMs Citadel owns) that have HD Radio installed.

According to an internal memo, the reason was, "In response to the lackluster performance, the limited benefit, and various reports of significant interference”.

Citadel Director of Corporate Engineering Martin Stabbert said that they were "stepping back to evaluate performance".

After a year of 'stepping back and evaluating' I wonder what conclusion they've come to?

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