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« on: January 04, 2009, 04:08:41 PM » |
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This may have been discussed before and, if so, I apologize but couldn't find a reference using search.
Since VHF/UHF stations came online they have used their channel designation as a brand (in addition to their call). With the DTV conversion most stations will change frequencies.
Will they continue using their old channel brand i.e., 5, 7, 9 etc., or will they begin using their new channel designation i.e., 36, 43, 67?
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2009, 04:42:32 PM » |
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This may have been discussed before and, if so, I apologize but couldn't find a reference using search.
Since VHF/UHF stations came online they have used their channel designation as a brand (in addition to their call). With the DTV conversion most stations will change frequencies.
Will they continue using their old channel brand i.e., 5, 7, 9 etc., or will they begin using their new channel designation i.e., 36, 43, 67?
99% of TV stations will continue to use their old brands, as viewers will tune to the old channel numbers. There will be a few exceptions. |
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2009, 05:37:50 PM » |
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99% of TV stations will continue to use their old brands, as viewers will tune to the old channel numbers. There will be a few exceptions.
What type of exceptions? Will TV stations be required to ID with their call letters and old analog channel numbers after the transition or can they just use the call letters? |
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2009, 06:31:00 PM » |
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99% of TV stations will continue to use their old brands, as viewers will tune to the old channel numbers. There will be a few exceptions.
What type of exceptions? Will TV stations be required to ID with their call letters and old analog channel numbers after the transition or can they just use the call letters? A legal ID is the call letters followed by the city-of-license. I think inserting the analog channel number is OK, but I'm not sure whether the PSIP number or the actual RF channel (if different) is allowed. |
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2009, 06:38:26 PM » |
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Stations don't have to ID with channel numbers now. Call sign + City of license is acceptable.
The FCC has adopted the PSIP standard in full, and the PSIP standard clearly states that stations are to continue using their analog channel number until their license is canceled. It is to follow the station wherever it moves physically.
There are stations which are ignoring this. I've heard some good rationalizations (KCVU-DT 20 in Chico, for example, is mapping to 20-1 instead of 30-1 because they want to put their Telemundo LP on analog 30 and are avoiding confusion), and some bad ones (WNBW-DT 9 in Gainesville is mapping to 9-1 because... well, I don't know why, it conflicts with WFTV-DT in Orlando).
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 07:16:29 PM » |
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WNBW-DT 9 in Gainesville is mapping to 9-1 because... well, I don't know why, it conflicts with WFTV-DT in Orlando.
WNBW ch.9 is actually on 9, and had never had an analog counterpart (though it was licensed an analog frequency on ch.29, which, obviously, will not be used). WFTV's digital signal used 9 as its PSIP, and will continue to do so, as it will not move its digital to ch.9, due to WNBW. |
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 07:20:30 PM » |
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Yes, but according to the PSIP spec WNBW should map to either 29-1 (if they want to use their "major" channel number) or 39-1 (if they want to claim they overlap with WFTV). Either way, they're not mapping properly. Hopefully the FCC fines them into mapping properly, as I've met people who receive both and have trouble because of the mapping.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 07:49:38 PM » |
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Everyone here in Dayton is branding as always. 2 is digital 50 but on air it remains 2. Side note: Time Warner moved 2 to 9 because of interference from the air signal. No reason for them not to move it back after 2/17
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2009, 09:54:08 PM » |
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Has any station tried setting their psip to channel 1 or channel 37? I'd bet that some stations would actually pay the FCC for the right to map to channel 1.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2009, 10:15:50 PM » |
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Has any station tried setting their psip to channel 1 or channel 37? I'd bet that some stations would actually pay the FCC for the right to map to channel 1. IIRC, Weigel Broadcasting's stations in Chicago (WCIU) and Milwaukee (WDJT) tried that a few years ago and incurred the wrath of the FCC. I don't think the Feds allow stations to ID as Channel 1 or 37 since neither is a legitimate OTA television channel. |
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