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solgrundy
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Re: The Danny Bonaduce Death Watch...
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2009, 01:39:05 PM »

I loved when YSP did the talk thing, it was different and there were some real unique personalities.  Before they switched, it was really starting to click.  I found myself laughing at things all day at work.  I truly miss it and have been lost trying to find stuff to replace it, I actually have a ton of podcasts from all those shows and still listen to them...I know, I'm a loser.
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Re: The Danny Bonaduce Death Watch...
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2009, 04:57:42 PM »

However, given their recent history, my money's on CBS bringing the "Amp" brand to Philly on 94.1.  Sure, you could call it Top 40 overkill ... but there seems to be this prevailing belief amongst most broadcasting outlets these days that you can never have too many stations like this. 

I think the prevailing belief amongst broadcasting outlets is that you can have two stations like this.  Is there any market in the country with more than 2 CHRs?

Because Philly doesn't have the non-commercial stations on the commercial dial like NYC does (93.9 and 99.5), or the stations that exist solely for the image of the parent company but don't make money (96.3), Philly doesn't have too many music format holes like NYC does.  2 Hot ACs, 2 CHRs, 2 Urbans Contemporary, 2 Urban Adult, 2 Classic Rock, 1 Mainstream Rock, 1 Alternative, 1 Rhythmic AC, 1 Country, 1 Oldies, 1 Adult Hits, and 1 Gospel. 

Where's the hole?  Active Rock?  New Alternative?  Classical?  Soft AC?

The suggestion to put sports on 94.1 I still don't get.  I think YSP bills more than the combination of the increase in billing at WIP from moving WIP to FM, plus the billing of whatever ends up on 610.  It's not like they could do what they're doing in Baltimore and put syndicated sports talk on 610.  That's already on 950 and not doing well.
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oasisrulz
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Re: The Danny Bonaduce Death Watch...
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2009, 07:35:33 PM »

CBS Broadcasting fails across the board when it comes to programming rock stations.

There was a very brief period of time when they got it right with WXRK in NYC ... they had a decent alternative mix going on in '95-'97 and also around '04-'05.  After those periods, they decided to throw in a heavy dose of classic rock that wound up alienating much of their audience.

The same applies to WYSP - the difference being that they always leaned more toward an Active or Classic Rock sound.  The former was much needed given the competition ... however, they always gravitated back to Classic Rock at some point or another.  Now they're a slightly younger leaning WMGK - and they're also posting some of their worst ratings ever.

CBS never learns.  They have no idea what their audience wants.

WXRK went talk for a while as Free-FM, and they made the genius decision of giving mornings to radio novice David Lee Roth.  All the boards were pegging it as a failure before it even went on ... they were proven correct 3 months later, when DLR was dropped and replaced by a simulcast of Opie & Anthony's show from XM (on a delay, of course).  Then they went back to K-Rock for a couple of years, with classic rock comprising the bulk of the playlist at all times.  Now they're another Top 40 station, 92.3 Now, and sounding pretty similar to Philly's Wired 96.5.

WYSP had its Free period, which lasted longer and sounded a bit better, as it had a decent amount of local personalities in the mix.  But then they brought back the music, touting "The Rock Is Back!" ... unfortunately, it was like the old stale YSP never left.  Eventually they dropped all new music and became "The Rock You Grew Up With".

Note to CBS: If we want to hear "rock we grew up with", there's a station that plays it already, and has for some time now.

I'd love to see YSP wise up and go Active (heavy on Korn, SOAD, Slipknot, Mudvayne, Deftones, Static-X, Nonpoint ... all the rock that MMR's too scared to play) or Alternative (a take that's closer to the roots of the genre than Radio 104.5, which is definitely closer in sound to Max 95.7 than either WDRE or Y-100).

However, given their recent history, my money's on CBS bringing the "Amp" brand to Philly on 94.1.  Sure, you could call it Top 40 overkill ... but there seems to be this prevailing belief amongst most broadcasting outlets these days that you can never have too many stations like this.  They're easy to program, and most importantly, they're cheap.

And those of us who enjoy intelligent radio .. well, I guess we don't matter anymore.
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1996 was XRK's best year IMHO, living in Philly, I could not pick them up, but having relatives in Toms River and going to Seaside Heights many times I had the pleasure to listen to them.  I think it was Stern, Slater, Stuttering John, I forget the other jocks but the music was fantastic, Saturday nights were even better, ignoring format and playing all type Alternative cuts, I think that was the year their sister AM was Z-Rock, Metal on AM, what an experience, but bad signal on 1480, all in all, a great combo.   I wish YSP was as good as XRK in 96, but YSP was so much better in 1996 then they ever were....althought they did lean more Active and less Alternative.
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ccuphl
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Re: The Danny Bonaduce Death Watch...
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2009, 08:03:56 PM »

Instead of all of you constantly bitching about D.B. who is so much better than the crap on the airwaves in the market, you should all be concerned about the real reason YSP is tanking.  Its the music, dont you get it,

WYSP's ratings go up after 10AM.
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Re: The Danny Bonaduce Death Watch...
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2009, 02:03:17 AM »

DON'T YOU ALL KNOW IT'S BAD TASTE TO SPEAK ILL OF THE DEAD, I.E. BONADUCE, I.E. "THE 'DUCE'"!!!


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Re: The Danny Bonaduce Death Watch...
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2009, 10:08:00 AM »

DB should stick to TV. Better audience and hotter chicks! Grin
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Re: The Danny Bonaduce Death Watch...
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 11:44:57 AM »

and now i heard on WYSP
that he will be shakeing 1 thosand hands with people in phildelphia until he gets to #1
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Re: The Danny Bonaduce Death Watch...
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 12:39:30 PM »


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I'd love to see YSP wise up and go Active (heavy on Korn, SOAD, Slipknot, Mudvayne, Deftones, Static-X, Nonpoint ... all the rock that MMR's too scared to play) or Alternative (a take that's closer to the roots of the genre than Radio 104.5, which is definitely closer in sound to Max 95.7 than either WDRE or Y-100).



Yes!  And I don't mean the band...

Go where WMMR fears to tread.  That said, I'm sure C/R meshes a little better with the football...good lord. 

Hey, there's always Barsky!   Grin
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Re: The Danny Bonaduce Death Watch...
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2009, 01:15:59 PM »

However, given their recent history, my money's on CBS bringing the "Amp" brand to Philly on 94.1.  Sure, you could call it Top 40 overkill ... but there seems to be this prevailing belief amongst most broadcasting outlets these days that you can never have too many stations like this. 

Where's the hole?  Active Rock?  New Alternative?  Classical?  Soft AC?


I definitely agree that Philly has more formats covered than NYC, with one notable difference being no Philly FM Spanish-oriented formats vs. 3 in NYC - Latin love songs, Salsa, and Latin Rhythmic (which was pretty heavy on Reggaeton when that sound was hot).

In my opinion, Philly is missing a few formats that have commercial viability, which some FM outlets should consider if they can't increase their ratings beyond where they are now (this definitely applies to YSP, but there's others as well).

1. Active Rock:  Even when heavier rock bands were huge, YSP was diluting their sound with a lot of stale classic rock.  If they brought the heavier rock bands mentioned in the last post to the forefront and combined them with some older acts that fit (drop the Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, etc. - they're a little too light for this format), I envision YSP becoming a ratings player again.  Right now, they're just the station with The Eagles and that former child star morning host that no one listens to.

2. Alternative Rock: Radio 104.5 reports as an Alternative station, but when comparing them to stations in Philly's past, I am reminded of Max 95.7 more than anything else.  They were a Modern AC with an emphasis on music and less talk.  Even though they don't use this branding/identification, this is what Radio 104.5 is for all intents and purposes.  Think about it: Nowhere in their station IDs do they call themselves Alternative, they play a lot of mainstream pop/rock music that most Alternative stations would never touch (All American Rejects, The Fray, 3 Doors Down, Dizzy Up The Girl-era Goo Goo Dolls, etc.), and they're usually one of the last stations in the country to add new music (look at how long it took them to add Anberlin, and to finally play MGMT after the album had been out for well over a year).  It's a station that straddles the line between on Alternative and more of an AC sound, and it's popular right now given the lack of options for those seeking this kind of music.  If someone steps up to to the plate and does a true Alternative that's more proactive with new music and closer to the format's roots (I'd love a station heavy on The Smiths, Pixies, Replacements and '90s British rockers with no Linkin Park, Seether, etc., but that might be wishful thinking), I would expect it to overtake Radio 104.5

3. Classic Hip-Hop & R&B: My 106.1 does play a trace of this, but they seem to be leaning a bit more current the last couple of times I heard them.  I think a station like this could attract a lot of adults who want to hear hip-hop when it meant something (and without all the Flo Rida / Soulja Boy Tell Em rubbish).  Combine this with some classic funk, new jack swing and '90s R&B, and I think they have a chance to tap into something.  From the '70s (James Brown & P-Funk) to the turn of the millennium is a good time span for this station.  A lot of people agree with me; from around the time that Nelly caught on until today, hip-hop has been on a downhill trajectory from which it may never recover.
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Re: The Danny Bonaduce Death Watch...
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2009, 11:32:48 AM »

Has anybody heard him do a good bit? My guess is the plug is pulled between the 4th of July and August 1st.

im going with the week of august 1st then the plug is pulled on YSP and WIP Moves to 94.1 in time for eagles season
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if there were any good bits, he'd have ratings, or the station would at least be promo-ing the heck out of them. have you seen the show's web site? never before has so much been written about something that absolutely no one is listening to. i didn't even think any show on a station with YSP's signal strength could possibly drop below 18th place. coupled with the endlessly redundant, worn-out playlist, it's a wonder CBS doesn't fire the whole station and start over. i mean, it's not possible to get any worse, yet they continue to try, following the old corporate radio stand-by of "if it's not working, that just means we need to do a lot more of it." horrible.
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