There's a Celebrity in our Midst...

[Savage]

Yes, David, we cover 800,000....with a 5 mv signal.  That's not the end of the coverage.  And because of our location south of the City, much of the more-populated metro - Livingston and Ontario Counties - actually get more signal than the City of Rochester does.

On the average car radio, you can drive anywhere in Western New York in the daytime with the exception of Niagara and Orleans Counties and get constant reliable reception from five signals: WHAM 1180, WYSL 1040, WBEN 930, WGR 550 AND WWKB 1520.  I proved this while driving all over Western New York and the Southern Tier accumulating almost 3000 field measurements for our CP application for 1220 back in late 2007.  Basically, wherever you went daytime, we were there, often with a "local" quality signal.  In the main southern lobe in the Southern Tier we were better than WHAM (they have suffered considerable coverage loss outside of Monroe County because of IBOC.)

In Allegany, parts of Cattaraugus and Steuben and Wayne Counties, WYSL is like a local (and yes, I know they're outside the Rochester SMSA.)

[mimo]

If you want to go with some really useless out of market info.  Up here in downtown Ottawa, WYSL comes in better daytime than WHAM.  I couldn't even hear WHAM in the day on my CC Radio plus until CJRC signed off the air.  The combined splatter with CFGO 1200 made daytime reception on 1180 impossible.  This proves that going towards the north country area of New York state, you're more likely to hold onto WYSL than WHAM.

[Savage]

Funny story about that, mimo....I vacationed in your beautiful city back in 2001 spending the better part of a week there.  At the end of the week we checked out and drove out of the underground parking garage in our downtown hotel.  Since it was a weekday and morning drivetime, I turned on the radio to try to catch some local traffic info so we didn't get stuck in a delay.

The radio preset was WYSL - which came in like a local in downtown Ottawa, 6:30am in August! 

And this was back when the station was running 2500 watts daytime!  You guys are right in our northern lobe.

[KB1OKL]

I did another AM IBOC seach today at noontime with my XDR-F1HD with stock antenna, around and around it goes, when it stops is when the power is shut off. I also read the CBS WYSL debacle and the FCC should have thrown out their flawed data, was ridiculous.
Every radio made since the 40's has a ferrite loop in it for AM and they are inherantly directional, that's a cure for IBOC interference, turn the radio?? How stupid is that? And how stupid is the FCC to allow that one to get by them?

[everydayguy]

Getting back to "Guy Wire" and Radio World -- they have NO integrity and have always been shills for the HD radio industry that advertises in their pages -- totally biased in favor of HD because that's where their ad dollars come from -- I have no respect for them.

[rbrucecarter5]

Getting back to "Guy Wire" and Radio World -- they have NO integrity and have always been shills for the HD radio industry that advertises in their pages -- totally biased in favor of HD because that's where their ad dollars come from -- I have no respect for them.

At least Guy Wire has stopped his sad devotion to the failed AM HD technology and is acknowledging that it will probably fail.  Now if he will just re-examine bad ideas like FM HD, the 10 DB power increase jamming, HD-2's that go silent when signal drops, and selective availability, maybe I'll have some faith in his engineering judgement.