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Maybe his unemployment is running out, but I received a rather pathetic email yesterday from Larry Elder.
Obviously it was from some management firm representing Larry but it had a ring of desperation to it. Sure it was padded with the typical hype and hot-air BS about how there was a world to save and he apparently is the one to save it. But I guess after a year of being unemployed there was a strong stink of desperation to the whole thing. The message of the email was to find out if there was any interest in Larry doing a podcast. It was asking if I’d be interested in subscribing to his podcast. I guess if enough suckers said yes they could justify charging for it. Also they asked if I’d be interested in attending speaking engagements of Larry. Once again seeing if anyone would pay for it. It really was quite pathetic. I guess after trying to find employment everywhere else for the past year, he seems to have hit reality and is now doomed to an already crowded morass of podcasting folks and rejects. Unfortunately nothing about Larry is unique or entertaining enough for anyone to pay to listen to him on a podcast, particularly since hundreds of other hosts on free radio share his exact opinions and positions. He is doomed to fail once again.
If he couldn’t even beat John and Ken on free radio what makes him think anyone would pay to listen to his show now?
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 05:42:42 PM » |
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Maybe his unemployment is running out, but I received a rather pathetic email yesterday from Larry Elder.
Obviously it was from some management firm representing Larry but it had a ring of desperation to it. Sure it was padded with the typical hype and hot-air BS about how there was a world to save and he apparently is the one to save it. But I guess after a year of being unemployed there was a strong stink of desperation to the whole thing. The message of the email was to find out if there was any interest in Larry doing a podcast. It was asking if I’d be interested in subscribing to his podcast. I guess if enough suckers said yes they could justify charging for it. Also they asked if I’d be interested in attending speaking engagements of Larry. Once again seeing if anyone would pay for it. It really was quite pathetic. I guess after trying to find employment everywhere else for the past year, he seems to have hit reality and is now doomed to an already crowded morass of podcasting folks and rejects. Unfortunately nothing about Larry is unique or entertaining enough for anyone to pay to listen to him on a podcast, particularly since hundreds of other hosts on free radio share his exact opinions and positions. He is doomed to fail once again.
If he couldn’t even beat John and Ken on free radio what makes him think anyone would pay to listen to his show now? The sage has turned out to be a weed.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 05:53:54 PM » |
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Maybe his unemployment is running out, but I received a rather pathetic email yesterday from Larry Elder.
Obviously it was from some management firm representing Larry but it had a ring of desperation to it. Sure it was padded with the typical hype and hot-air BS about how there was a world to save and he apparently is the one to save it. But I guess after a year of being unemployed there was a strong stink of desperation to the whole thing. The message of the email was to find out if there was any interest in Larry doing a podcast. It was asking if I’d be interested in subscribing to his podcast. I guess if enough suckers said yes they could justify charging for it. Also they asked if I’d be interested in attending speaking engagements of Larry. Once again seeing if anyone would pay for it. It really was quite pathetic. I guess after trying to find employment everywhere else for the past year, he seems to have hit reality and is now doomed to an already crowded morass of podcasting folks and rejects. Unfortunately nothing about Larry is unique or entertaining enough for anyone to pay to listen to him on a podcast, particularly since hundreds of other hosts on free radio share his exact opinions and positions. He is doomed to fail once again.
If he couldn’t even beat John and Ken on free radio what makes him think anyone would pay to listen to his show now? The sage has turned out to be a weed.
John and Ken are a different animal and for whatever reason enjoy great ratings. Maybe in the long run people prefer insincerity to reasoned discussion. Dennis Prager isn't anywhere near the top of ratings either, against Rush. But even an impassioned loudmouth like Ziegler can't stay on the air in La La Land. In the end the Dynamic Duo are entertaining and there are some facts buried in the hyperbole and theatrics so it may be the best the market will stand. There is also 50 thousand watts versus 5 thousand to be considered. KFI has a much higher signal penetration and with all of the noise now heard on AM radios that is no small consideration. I have also believed that Larry was let go as a cost saving measure, he had been carried in New York as well and his salary was likely not insignificant. Maybe Larry needs to wait for Saul Levine's' next format flip on KGIL or until Roger Hedgehog flops on KFWB, whichever comes first.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2009, 07:41:56 PM » |
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I think you hit the nail on the head nmoore. John and Ken are successful since they are entertaining. Same for Rush, Bill Handel and Howard Stern. Unfortunately Larry is not. If KABC management had not been brain dead for the last decade, Larry would have been replaced years ago. He never delivered on ratings. What many broadcasters fail to realize is that Radio is an entertainment medium. Too many hosts somehow think that once they have reached the world of radio their sense of self-importance should be enough. That is what causes them to fail - entertain first and success will follow.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2009, 10:04:10 AM » |
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I've been seeing Larry on the Ed Show on MSNBC. Does he get paid for those appearances?
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2009, 03:15:41 PM » |
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I've been seeing Larry on the Ed Show on MSNBC. Does he get paid for those appearances?
He does not get paid. He does it to keep his name out there.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2009, 04:59:06 PM » |
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I've been seeing Larry on the Ed Show on MSNBC. Does he get paid for those appearances?
He does not get paid. He does it to keep his name out there. Actually that's wrong. Larry is definitely a member of AFTRA and probably is a member of SAG too, given his many appearances on cable news shows as well as pilots and former shows. Members of these groups get paid every time they make a tv appearance.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2009, 06:28:49 PM » |
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You know, I received the same type of email in the mid-90's before Dr. Laura was syndicated. Asked if I listened, what about the program I found appealing, my demo, if I'd be interested in a mid-day show. Her program went national a few months later.
Not saying it's the same thing, but it doesn't always mean desperate. Could be he's got something lined up.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2009, 08:46:24 PM » |
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You know, I received the same type of email in the mid-90's before Dr. Laura was syndicated. Asked if I listened, what about the program I found appealing, my demo, if I'd be interested in a mid-day show. Her program went national a few months later.
Not saying it's the same thing, but it doesn't always mean desperate. Could be he's got something lined up.
Agreed. Larry does not need to get back on the radio for the money. The guy has put out 3 books and worked for KABC for over a decade, while continuing to write columns which are nationally syndicated. Earlier this year in a google search I found that Larry was selling his mansion for several million dollars. The guy doesn't need the work for the money. I think he just misses being on the radio and communicating with his fans in real time.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2009, 11:06:38 PM » |
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Well lets face it. No one is doing radio because of the love of radio or fans. Every last one of them has a motive which is to make money. Do you think if Larry has public appearances (as he was asking in his email) that he will allow his audience in for free. I highly doubt it -everything is done so he can make money, which I am not even saying is a bad thing, but let's be honest about it. Fans have nothing to do with it. Same reason other hosts sell mugs, tshirts and other knick knacks so they can make some money.
Also Larry was once syndicated by KABC but that failed, so I doubt anybody would be willing to pay large bucks to try that experiment again. Secondly Larry in his email is pushing openly that he is trying to get a podcast. That tells me that he has struck out everywhere else.
Larry is not dumb and knows that the longer he is off the air the less his chances are of landing another big gig, because with each passing day he becomes increasingly irrelevant, particularly in a field where thousands of other people are doing exactly the same thing as he does and in many cases much better than him. So he has to get his name out there and try as much as he can, whether it is books, articles or radio appearances so that it ultimately will lead to a gig that pays big bucks. Why would Doug McInyre leave a 5 hour radio slot for a 1 hour radio slot in NY. The reason is because it ultimately can lead to a bigger paycheck and I'm sure Doug lives in a Mansion too, and yet he tries.
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