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BogusBoy
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2009, 01:39:59 PM »

For GAWD sakes Ditto! If this Wii promotion had gone off as planned, without incident, and you heard about it, you wouldn't have thought it was terrible. I'm sorry. I didn't know this could kill a person. I just didn't. Terrible thing he did? Get over yourself. Everyone's a genius when the facts come in. How dare you judge this poor guy? I heard the tapes. I know they were laughing and carrying on about waivers and such. This was an attempt to do interesting radio, that went horribly wrong. He got fired. A lot of people did. The station, as Sacto knew it, is gone. This woman's kids have no mom. He will live with this for the rest of his life. Why the hate? His laughter was a misguided attempt at good radio. Sounds cold and callused in hind sight. But, Dude......that could have been me.
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dittohead1
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2009, 05:59:58 PM »

HE does the most notorious but in radio history and *I* need to check myself.  HOOKAY!

If that could have been you, you probably should re-examine some things.
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2009, 07:51:03 PM »

> but I fail to understand how showing dog fights enters into the realm of free speech...

I don't want to get too deep into this, 'cause it's way off topic.  But, the issue here is not about protecting the video producers; it's about protecting speech generally.

It sure sounds as if the statute at issue is way, way too broad.  As written, as the Justices pointed out in argument, it would prohibit many types of video that ordinarily would be socially acceptable.  In fact, a video showing the evils of dog fighting, showing how horrible it is, likely would fall under statutory prohibition.  So might videos about deer hunting, whaling or bull fighting.  Journalistic reports about such things might also be prohibited, as the New York Times has posited.  I could go on and on with hypotheticals here (as the Justices did), but you get the idea.

Oh, and by the way... some of the video was shot in Japan, where dog fighting is legal.

There might be ways to narrowly-tailor a statute that might pass Constitutional scrutiny.  The drafters were sloppy.

It's very easy with emotionally-charged things like animal cruelty to get carried away.  We must resist that temptation.  Remember, guys... as broadcasters, the First Amendment is our stock-and-trade.

OK.  Back to radio...

DE

Yeah, yeah, yeah.  Actually thanks for the response DE.  Female circumcision (mutilation) is legal and practiced in many places.  Let's protect that as free speech too.  I know, I know, but like I said, too many shades of gray.  I don't think we disagree, it's just always a disappointment to me when someone presents a reason that something as disgusting as dog fighting videos should be protected and I get it.  I get it, but I don't like it.  The Constitution can sometimes be a pain in the pitard.  No?

Now back to our regularly scheduled piousness.
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2009, 10:17:47 AM »

Well, this could be a not very good sign for the good folks at Entercom:

http://www.sacbee.com/ourregion/story/2278330.html

But, please, don't let me derail you from the enlightening "personal responsibility" discussions
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2009, 12:18:07 PM »

Entercom could well get slammed hard for this; but the jocks involved were long ago separated from the lawsuit, and have moved on to new jobs, and hopefully, new lives.

Would that you could do the same.
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2009, 01:31:50 PM »

Jennifer Strange should move on as well.
Oh, wait a minute...
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dittohead1
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2009, 04:07:17 PM »

Jennifer Strange should move on as well.
Oh, wait a minute...

Thank you!

Jeez, I hope we haven't disturbed Maney's dinner.  That would make me sad.
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2009, 10:48:31 PM »

Entercom could well get slammed hard for this; but the jocks involved were long ago separated from the lawsuit, and have moved on to new jobs, and hopefully, new lives.
Would that you could do the same.
Agreed.  This is like picking at a scab, but more importantly, none of this will ever bring Jennifer Strange back.
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sjs1959
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2009, 04:13:55 PM »

Entercom could well get slammed hard for this; but the jocks involved were long ago separated from the lawsuit, and have moved on to new jobs, and hopefully, new lives.
Would that you could do the same.
Agreed.  This is like picking at a scab, but more importantly, none of this will ever bring Jennifer Strange back.

No it won't.  However, it looks like Entercom is going to pay dearly here, to the tune of $16.57 Million, and I'm not sorry for them.

http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/2291955.html
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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2009, 06:12:04 PM »

I'm glad the Strange family got some justice.  It's really ponderous that Maney and Lucas ran a contest that killed a woman and cost their former employer 16 and a half million dollars and those boys end up with sweet gigs in Memphis and Phoenix (respectively).

God bless America!

(still waiting for that wrongful dismissal suit Maney)
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