Your Wish List For The New Party FM 87.7

[JOE BINGO]

Pulse did not fail; in fact, it opened our eyes and ears.  The playlist was enjoyable and there can be a good mix of Hip-Hop/R & B/ and Hits.  The main focus has to be Dance Music; it's been around forever, and the successful clubs, parties, etc. all have a common denominator- Dance Music!

[qwertynyc]

I miss Pulse- everything about it from DJ's, voice-overs and especially the dance music. Yes, Party is playing Ameerah, Agnes, Lady Gaga, etc, but I listened all day and never heard the repetition that I heard on Party today. They played Paparazzi and Party in the USA about a dozen times today. Since I can't listen to this station at work on terrestrial radio I've got hundreds, if not thousands of other internet radio stations to choose from and unfortunately Party would not be it. I can say that 87.7 has always come in loud and clear where I live on the UWS and it will continue to be a listening choice at home, just not as much as the old Pulse.

[CHRles]

If Party FM plays a good mix of Pop, Hip-Hop AND Dance (prioritizing on Dance) then that IS kind of a TRUE return to original form, since HOT 103/97 did just that and was on TOP of the ratings many times. PLEASE TELL THIS TO SOME OF THE HATERS ON PARTY FM'S page on Facebook because apparently they don't get it.

Those are probably the hardcore Pulse listeners. Right now they're grieving over Pulse and since they've gotten used to pretty much having a pure terrestrial Dance station, it's hard for them to accept anything a little bit different. Now if Party hadn't taken over 87.7 FMs frequency, at least not for 6 months, then I guarantee you those same crybabies would be grateful to the new Party FM. They'd be more then happy to have a station play a good chunk of Dance music alongside the latest Pop hits.
It's easier to hate than to embrace change. Not everyone "gets it", but thankfully there's people like you and Tony Santiago who do see the bigger picture.

Energy 92.7 recently left the airwaves of S.F. Some of its hardcore fans took it real hard. Look at what one poster commented today:
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,156042.0.html

On the other hand, Atlanta recently got a Rhythmic AC that plays its fair share of Dance. Over in the ATL the Dance fans are happy:
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,155112.0.html

[Mid West Clubber]

You guys need to give vic and party the benefit of the doubt,,, I would love to have a station with even 25 percent dance here......   chrles is right,, stations like the first  Hot 97,,, power 106 in LA,    b-96 chicago,, and power 96 in miami were all among the pioneers of dance stations, and none of them were 24/7   4x4 beats,   whats wrong with some pop,   ballads, hip hop, and maybe even occasional rock whenever your getting such a big dose of dance,,, I would be happy to even have a KTU type station here........   It would be stupid for a dance station to ignore the big crossover artists like brittney, Gaga,   b.e.p,,, Sean Kingston....     Why ignore hits within the format, thats  just dumb    for a terrestrial station in 2009...  Keep in mind that when the original Hot 97 was around many of those dance songs were big chr hits and also heard on z-100 and bls...

[Ger]

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[d21ofnj]

What some of those facebook fans forget is Party always had a mix of hip hop and dance since they signed on.  After the channelcast, Party was more dance heavy since there was a station catering to the hip hop fans.  All I say is give it time, maybe Vic will do the 70% dance 30% hip hop formula like how Party was back in 98-04.

[NoMoreLurking]

I don't agree about these percentage mixtures. Straddling the fence between hip hop and dance is gonna piss off the hip hop fans (who don't really need half a hip hop station in NYC) AND piss off the dance fans, leaving not too many people very happy.

See WRXP, the local everything-but-the-kitchen-sink alternative/classic/whatever rock station, famous mostly for its haphazard playlist and train wreck segues by trying to reach fans of all kinds of rock but not pleasing very many. Party FM should specialize in one genre or it'll be the WRXP of rhythmic music.

[dj_quad4]

I don't agree about these percentage mixtures. Straddling the fence between hip hop and dance is gonna piss off the hip hop fans (who don't really need half a hip hop station in NYC) AND piss off the dance fans, leaving not too many people very happy.

See WRXP, the local everything-but-the-kitchen-sink alternative/classic/whatever rock station, famous mostly for its haphazard playlist and train wreck segues by trying to reach fans of all kinds of rock but not pleasing very many. Party FM should specialize in one genre or it'll be the WRXP of rhythmic music.

I agree with you 100%,I remember back in 1993 when the original HOT 97 was Ghettoed out to sound like a mixture of dance music and hip hop it fail.Look what happen to hot 97 now,all hip hop station.That's why I believe party 105 should change their format, New York City is different from Long Island.Party 105 will never get the listeners of hot 97 & power 105.1

[musik187]

I don't agree about these percentage mixtures. Straddling the fence between hip hop and dance is gonna piss off the hip hop fans (who don't really need half a hip hop station in NYC) AND piss off the dance fans, leaving not too many people very happy.

See WRXP, the local everything-but-the-kitchen-sink alternative/classic/whatever rock station, famous mostly for its haphazard playlist and train wreck segues by trying to reach fans of all kinds of rock but not pleasing very many. Party FM should specialize in one genre or it'll be the WRXP of rhythmic music.

I agree with you 100%,I remember back in 1993 when the original HOT 97 was Ghettoed out to sound like a mixture of dance music and hip hop it fail.Look what happen to hot 97 now,all hip hop station.That's why I believe party 105 should change their format, New York City is different from Long Island.Party 105 will never get the listeners of hot 97 & power 105.1

I honestly don't think their goal IS to attain HOT or Power's listeners...The station shouldn't be completely Dance, it can incorporate a bit of Dance and Pop and a Hip Hop song or two as well... they should actually... NOT saying they shouldn't increase the Dance product... NOT saying that at all... they definitely should!! It's just good to have a bit of rhythmic variety on the station that's all. However the repetition of some of the songs they are playing? NOW that's something completely different. THAT should change and I hope in time it will. Let's NOT forget (once again) that HOT 97 DID play a bit of everything back in the day when it was still a big station, even though it prioritized on Dance. That's a fact.

[CHRles]

Great comments DJ quad. You are right on the money with what you said about variety. With regards to repetition, sadly from what I've observed and read, some of the most successful stations of alltime were very heavy on the repetition.

To NoMoreLurking, if you have 4 Rock stations in a market then filling a niche is fine, but if you just have one then it needs to have as broad of an appeal as possible.
If there were 4 stations in NYC leaning on Dance then you'd expect one to go full blown Dance.
While NYC already has 2 Hip Hop stations this did not happen overnight. NYC does not have a true Rhythmic CHR (although KTU and 92.3 Now straddle that line) nor a true Dance station. In order to create a Dance station for NYC you first need to create a mass appeal station that's going to cater to more than just the Dance heads. Mass appeal indicates it needs to be Pop savvy, and since a lot of Hip Hop records are also big Pop hits then it makes sense to play some Hip Hop in the mix.
If there will come a time when there will be a big enough hole in the market for a pure Dance station in NYC then you'd likely see it emerge on a full market signal. You'd see signs of this emerging if the Pop charts were suddenly flooded by Dance records, as was the case in the late 70s with Disco.

We've brought up cases of the original Hot 103, which debuted in Summer 1986. A little less than 10 years later, in the winter of 1996, New York got another Dance station on the same frequency, 103.5 KTU. The new KTU wasn't pure Dance, but was a VERY smart mass appeal station. It played Dance, Pop hits as NYC didn't have a true CHR/Pop at the time (Z-100 leaned Modern Rock), and it played retro Dance, including titles from the 70s and early 80s that were popular on the original 92 KTU. Hence, it was a very different station from both the original Hot 103, and from the original 92 KTU, but it was mass appeal.

With regards to Rock, the Rock audience in the major markets has gotten increasingly fragmented over the years. Some of the Rock fans are anti-radio, some only want to hear a very specific type of Hard Rock, Adult Rock, or Alternative Rock. Concurrently, the major markets have gotten a lot more ethnically diverse over the years. Rock radio, like Country music, is at its core a format big with white people. And yet, Rock music was created by blacks, and has been embraced by Hispanics a lot moreso than Country music.
Rock music is associated with the baby boom generation. It was the voice of the young people, and in the post World War II era teens accounted for a much higher percentage of the US population. Many of the Top 40 stations in its Golden era were geared at 12-24 year olds, and thrived thanks to the music coming out of Memphis, L.A., Liverpool and Birmingham. Progressive and pure Rock radio was then able to take off due to Rock's huge popularity. FM radio was much more experimental in the mid 60s through much of the 70s, and was where Rock stations of all shapes and sizes found a home. By the time the 80s rolled around, when radio had gotten more corporate, and many stations couldn't rely on 12-24 year olds to survive, there was a big enough older audience for Rock. That's why many of the Rock stations of the 80s were more Adult friendly, and being a Rock station oftentimes meant playing Bryan Adams, Bruce Springsteen, and other acts that today many Rock fans would frown upon. They want it hard and loud, or they want it melancholic and indie, but they oftentimes don't want something in between, those mass appeal records that bridge the gap between young and old, loud or accoustic. And that's what makes it harder for Rock radio to succeed in some markets these days. So some people stopped listening to Rock altogether and moved on to other genres, and some found new outlets for their music - namely the internet.