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TowerLamp
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« on: September 18, 2006, 10:37:26 PM »

No surprise here. An excerpt from http://www.allaccess.com


"Edison Study Shows Teen Radio Listening Down
 
EDISON RESEARCH's latest study...on 12-17-year-olds...finds TSL down 22% since 1993, while TSL among 18-24s is off 24% in the same time frame. 11% of boys 12-17 say they listen to no radio at all..."


All this while broadcast radio continues to think 40 minute music sweeps and "playing the music we like" are winning strategies...fiddle away Nero...!
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2006, 09:09:46 AM »

All this while broadcast radio continues to think 40 minute music sweeps and "playing the music we like" are winning strategies...fiddle away Nero...!

Which radio stations that target 12 to 24 year old listeners use that phrase you just cited?
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2006, 01:51:40 PM »

Which radio stations that target 12 to 24 year old listeners use that phrase you just cited?

Yer missing the point, maybe you actually helped to make mine. Stations that think they are winning P1 listeners with a phrase, any phrase are not going to win the 25-54's of tomorrow. To lure new cume radio must offer something iPods, sat-rad and the web can't offer. Phrases ain't it. That was the point of the initial post.

Who's reciting what liner card phrase is exactly the mind-set that's gotten radio into the situation it's in. It's time to start looking at our product from the listeners point of view.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2006, 05:35:15 PM »

Yer missing the point, maybe you actually helped to make mine. Stations that think they are winning P1 listeners with a phrase, any phrase are not going to win the 25-54's of tomorrow. To lure new cume radio must offer something iPods, sat-rad and the web can't offer. Phrases ain't it. That was the point of the initial post.

Who's reciting what liner card phrase is exactly the mind-set that's gotten radio into the situation it's in. It's time to start looking at our product from the listeners point of view.

You're absolutely right there are some really stupid liners out there.  But lame phrases isn't radio's only problem.

I asked you that question because very few of stations that cater to 12-24 year old kids use those lame phrases.  KUBE doesn't, and look at their position.

Picture a 16 year old and a 36 year old each having $300 to spend in whatever way they want to.  The 16 year old is more likely to purchase something all his or her friends are buying (such as an iPod), and the 36 year old is more likely to pay a bill, save the money or buy their own kid some clothes.

The point is, there are tons of other media options out there.  People in the 12 to 24 age range are much more likely to seek out new media, whereas the 36 year old, is more likely to go for the simple route and just turn on the radio.

Have you listened to satellite radio lately?  XM is adding commercials to their music programming, and Sirius already has them.  Sure, they have many more channels, but the music is largely the same as terrestrial radio.  Can you honestly say that their programming, beside where the programming actually comes from, is noitceably different?

No question terrestrial radio has plenty of problems, but I'm not convinced that bad phrases is the biggest one.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2006, 06:48:17 PM »

No question terrestrial radio has plenty of problems, but I'm not convinced that bad phrases is the biggest one.

Agreed.  There were plenty of lame positioning statements 30 years ago too.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2006, 11:14:55 PM »

AQH,

You're right. By no means did I wish to imply that liners are the problem. I just cited that as one examle of radio's woes. Far too many PDs think that a new set of liners will fix it all. What you mention about Sat radio hits the nail right on the head. There's hardly anything different about terrestrial radio and Sat radio except the spots. Shame on us for letting that happen. Its that lack of something that makes terrestrial radio differ from Sat Rad, iPod, webcasts and now cell phones that's the problem.

Yes, I've had rental cars and friends with sat radio. You're right again about sat radio not being noticeably different from terrestrial radio except for the commercial factor. That is broadcast radio's big problem. We've watered down the content and muzzled personalities to the point that radio has little to offer beyond being a music box. We need to re-capture the "showbiz" that was Lan Roberts, Wolfman, Gary Owens or Dr. Don Rose. We need to find and nurture the talent of the future if we're to survive this digital onslaught.

P.S. I doubt that those teens give much of a damn about sat radio either. XM/Sirius are for we upscale old farts who can afford the cars that offer that option.
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