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Author Topic: Is 1230-AM about to drop Air America??  (Read 1559 times)
gabigley1
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« on: December 13, 2006, 05:18:17 PM »

The Progressive 1230 website says, 'Changes are Coming' here:

http://www.progressive1230.com/main.html

If there were to drop Air America, would many people care??
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gr8oldies
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2006, 07:13:48 PM »

You talking drooping the whole libtalk format or just AA programming? Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz aren't AA shows. Schultz' live feed is moving to 12n-3pm, donm't know what WTPG will do with the show.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2006, 08:10:25 AM »

Poor CC just can't get anything going with this frequency. And to think it used to dominate the market.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 01:13:47 PM »

Poor CC just can't get anything going with this frequency. And to think it used to dominate the market.

What other great AM formats are there out there?  They've tried about all of them and failed on all fronts.  Anything left they haven't tried?  Too bad they didn't stick with sports and try to pry the Buckeyes or Blue Jackets away from The Fan.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 02:09:00 PM »

Poor CC just can't get anything going with this frequency. And to think it used to dominate the market.

What other great AM formats are there out there?  They've tried about all of them and failed on all fronts.  Anything left they haven't tried?  Too bad they didn't stick with sports and try to pry the Buckeyes or Blue Jackets away from The Fan.

As long as the Wolfe's are a minority owner of the Blue Jackets, WTVN/1230 will never have the Blue Jackets.
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2006, 08:17:09 AM »

Formats? How abot another standards format? One that has a better playlist than WMNI?
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2006, 10:52:47 AM »

I received a call from on of my program representatives regarding 1230 being interested in a VERY Conservative talk show that my station carries.

My rep wanted to know if the stations overlap to an extent that it would affect my listenership.

I won't divulge what show it was or what my answer was but I would say that 1230 is looking to flank WTVN with a very right leaning syndicated format.

That oughtta be worth 2 cents.
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2006, 06:55:48 PM »

Where is that [EDIT] who insisted that WCOL was on an upward swing ratings wise a couple of months ago? !


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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2006, 03:18:57 AM »

Where is that [EDIT] who insisted that WCOL was on an upward swing ratings wise a couple of months ago? !


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At least the goofball knows the call letters changed from WCOL to WTPG when it became a progressive talk station.

And after reading some of the postings over the last few weeks regarding what has happened not only at Clear Channel but at other Columbus radio stations, I have come to realize that it was good I never made it in radio.

When I read that a nighttime DJ on a top-rated FM station here in town has slightly less years in radio as I have in my state job, makes less than half the money I do and still finds himself going on the unemployment line, I consider myself blessed on where my career path has taken me.

The Sales Manager, Jeff Rehl, is aware I had plans to do more consistent advertising on the station for my sideline business.  What happened with Ed Schultz, as I read from Big Eddie himself, indicated I should look into advertising outside of broadcast radio for the customers I am trying to reach here in Columbus.  Outlook News is one of the outlets which has been seeking my ad dollars.  And all of these media outlets, unlike Clear Channel, are non-profit entities.

If you get what you've been wishing for, Harry, I won't be buying advertising on Columbus radio anywhere.  If I buy anything radio-related, it will be on the live broadcast stream on AM 1350 Radio Free Ohio, where Ed-heads both here and in Cincinnati will now be going to get their daily dose of Ed.  The station is based in Akron, where I worked in radio under the legendary Jerry Healey and where I still have family and community ties.  And just to let you know, Harry, 1350 was the home for nearly three decades for a country radio legend, Jaybird Drennan, who died this past week.

Jaybird retired after WQMX-FM went country under the programming leadership of Steve Cherry, and the locally owned station is still near the top of the Akron radio ratings.  If the name sounds familiar, Harry, it's because he was Program Director and afternoon host at 93.3 FM until he and his wife were given the ax by Clear Channel two weeks ago--as his wife was having a baby.

Even if AM 1230 remains a progressive talk station, I have no clue who would produce my commercials since the ax also fell on Scott Kahler, whose voice has been heard on 610 WTVN and other Columbus radio stations for decades.  As distinctive as Jaybird's voice was on Akron radio, Scott's was a distinctive voice on the Columbus radio landscape.

Feel free to poke fun as much as you like, Harry.  At least I have a good-paying, steady job with good benefits serving the citizens of this state (a job you probably wish were privatized).  I have no debt, I'm saving for retirement, and I have a sideline business which enables me to both diversify my income and share the profits with a community I enjoy calling home.

But before you respond with something you will regret saying later, keep in mind the hundreds of Clear Channel and CBS Radio employees given pink slips nationwide--many with the experience of Scott Kahler and Steve Cherry who now face financial challenges greater than I did when I lost my radio jobs.

And the reason this goofball hasn't been posting here for some time is because he is doing something [EDIT].

I have a life, Harry.  [EDIT].

When I was in radio 20 years ago, both the seven-station rule and the Fairness Doctrine were still in place.  Rest assured, Harry, it is guys like you that will motivate me to make my comments to the FCC about bringing those rules back.


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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2006, 01:12:17 PM »


But before you respond with something you will regret saying later, keep in mind the hundreds of Clear Channel and CBS Radio employees given pink slips nationwide--many with the experience of Scott Kahler and Steve Cherry who now face financial challenges greater than I did when I lost my radio jobs.

And the reason this goofball hasn't been posting here for some time is because he is doing something [EDIT].

I have a life, Harry.  [EDIT].

When I was in radio 20 years ago, both the seven-station rule and the Fairness Doctrine were still in place.  Rest assured, Harry, it is guys like you that will motivate me to make my comments to the FCC about bringing those rules back.


Typical liberal.  If it were up to your kind, we would still be driving Ford Pintos and they would cost $35,000 a year.  Going against market forces is like trying to stem a flood ... like nature, market forces are too powerful and what the market wants will be inevitable.

Radio is a mature industry ... almost 100 years old.  Market forces, the internet and the numerous media outlets have made consolidation necessary.  Stations were losing money without the economies of scale that duopoly ownership provides.  Of course, like most consolidated industries, it looks like they have had their day.  They have taken most of the creativity out of radio, and as a result listeners are finding new alternatives.

The analogy here is General Motors.  Creativity and car buffs used to rule at GM .... and consequently GM used to rule.  Then the accountants took charge and cheapened the product, better alternatives came around, and their customers ran away in droves.

I think that's what's happening to Clear Channel right now.  They are in the same position GM was in the 1970's.  Undisputed market leader, with no more room to grow.  The only way to grow is to cut costs ... and that will lead to a cheapening of the product and Clear Channel's inevitable shrinkage.

P.S.  As to who has a life ... I wasn't the one who just spent God knows how long writing a long-winded response at 3 am.  [EDIT]


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