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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2007, 08:43:36 AM »


After they killed sports on XTRA? I'm not buying it...

You couldn't afford it, G-dawg. This move, if true, could out FOX us all. Meanwhile, CCU-SD is moving studios and .....

The 50 kw application is in process, and a long way off. CCU kept the ownership of the KSDO towers (smart move) and that is where the new KXTR ... sorry ... KLSD transmitter location would be. The proposed CP would be directional, mostly to the fishes and dolphins in the Pacific. The rating service must have waterproof markers for them to keep diaries.

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The KXTR calls are being used by an Entercom-owned AM station in Kansas City.

All news...KOGO tried unsuccessfully many years ago, so did 1360 way back when as KCNN.  I have seen nothing on the boards about Clear Channel dropping AAR from KTLK or KQKE but those stations appear to have been underperforming as well, and the LA board is rife with rumors concerning a Clear Channel station there thats going to flip, but KTLK has not been one of those mentioned, except by me several months ago and the regulars blew it off.  Anyway, a venture into the ever expanding Latin market does not seem out of the realm of possibility. 

KTLK and KQKE are doing as well as, or perhaps better than, any other format that could be on either of those signals. KTLK is coming off a pretty decent book (ratings are up) and KQKE is undergoing a reimaging and call sign change (KKGN), while keeping the current format. Neither of those stations are changing formats.

A flip of KLSD to sports makes absolutely no sense, seeing that KLSD's ratings are pretty decent (save for the last fluke book), and CC has always done lousy with sports in Southern California. It already failed on XETRA, after being on the air for years. KLAC in L.A. gets worse ratings than KTLK with a better signal.
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2007, 09:14:47 AM »

Glad to  hear that re. KTLK and KQKE, thanks for the info and for the correction. 

Yet if I read this board correctly KLSD will be doing something differently, and soon. A few weeks ago I heard Ed Schultz mention that his show was doing very well here, so actually changing something that does have its niche well carved out does not make a great deal of sense.  I think AAR and KLSD provide an incredibly valuable information source and an important perspective politically, yet I know dyed in the wool Democrats who can't stand the format, who listen religiously to KOGO but would never be persuaded to vote against their own interests by the KOGO political perspective. 
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2007, 10:58:27 AM »

All news...KOGO tried unsuccessfully many years ago, so did 1360 way back when as KCNN. 

I was the 6AM to noon anchor for KCNN and that was a strange operation: we mostly ran the audio from CNN TV (that's right most of our programming was television without the pictures). I did six hours of local news breaks, then former 13K (AM 1360's last Top 40 name) Jeff Lucifer did noon to 6PM. We each recorded a half dozen one minute news breaks that were rotated from 6PM to 6AM (some of our new breaks were close to 18 hours old when they aired! CNN was just getting started in those days and the Falklands War was going on when we first put KCNN on the air: CNN's reporters were full of breathless excitement and CNN had all of those annoying news sounders that ran seemingly every 15 seconds. The sound was frenetic at best and it exhausting to listen to. I was really happy when they brought in Monica Zech to anchor 10-2 so Jeff and i got shorter shifts. KGB's disastrous attempt at all-news didn't last too long before they switched over to big band and what became KPOP 1360.

I'm trying to recall when KOGO was all news: it may have been the KOGO Radio Magazine of the early 80's which involved lots of news and features in an strange amalgam format with with lots of news and features and DJ hosts such as Shotgun Tom, Jeannie Cavitt and some lame morning guy from back east by the name of Bob Decarlo. Actually he might have been a good jock, but he knew nothing about San Diego, had an East Coast act and suffered from the overall failings of the "radio magazine" format. I did a weekly documentary series which ran in daily segments. As a journalist it was a rare chance to do something outside the ordinary anchoring of radio news, but as an example of how the KOGO programmers had not a clue, our station was called the "Radio Magazine" but operations manager Jesse Bullet insisted that I call each segment a "chapter." I tried to point out to him that books have chapters, not magazines, but as with so many other things, the details were not important. My favorite story from that station was from my first week I had not yet been on the year (I spent the first week preparing the segments that would run the following week): Program Director Reed Reeker stuck his head in the newsroom door and said "Hey Bobby, you're sounding great man." I didn't bother to tell him I had not been on the air yet, but it reinforced my belief that if your name is Bob, anyone who calls you "Bobby" is generally full of it.

KOGO later did news/talk under Par Broadcasting when they had shows from Imus, G. Gordon Liddy, etc. The late Jack Merker, who had been a very good news anchor at KSDO, was news director but was so consumed with hatred for KSDO  that he couldn't think straight. I worked there as morning anchor for two weeks before I quit: it was just too weird.

KSDO was the only San Diego that ever did good all news programming but probably these days no one would make the investment required to do it right again: anchors, reporters, writers, board ops, etc. It's a lot cheaper to just hire a board op and run a syndicated feed or have the minimum wage board op and a screener play gofer to a couple of sports mouths.

I must say that the days of genuine radio news teams were at times a lot of fun, even at the "radio magazine" I recall one time at KOGO when brush fires were breaking out all over the county. We had a few radio-equipped news cars (no cell phones then) and Capt. Stan Brown reporting from a helicopter. That day we were all over the county at times almost among the flames reporting live. At one point there was a fire out in Spring Valley, I think, threatening several homes on a hillside. I was on one side of the hill in my news car, someone else was on the other side of the hill and Capt Stan was hovering above it all and we had the in studio anchor. The four of us passed the mike (figuratively) from one to another, ad-libbing of course, and it was some impressive on scene live coverage the likes of which hardly ever shows up on radio anymore. At an earlier fire scene that day I was doing my live report when I glanced in the rear view mirror and noticed the flames coming up over the embankment right behind me. I did a quick "the fire's on my tail so I gotta run" and got the hell out of there. It'd be nice to see someone once again put together a real news team in San Diego: alas it ain't gonna happen, but at least we now have KNX back.

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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2007, 12:00:00 PM »

All news...KOGO tried unsuccessfully many years ago, so did 1360 way back when as KCNN.  I have seen nothing on the boards about Clear Channel dropping AAR from KTLK or KQKE but those stations appear to have been underperforming as well, and the LA board is rife with rumors concerning a Clear Channel station there thats going to flip, but KTLK has not been one of those mentioned, except by me several months ago and the regulars blew it off.  Anyway, a venture into the ever expanding Latin market does not seem out of the realm of possibility. 

Comparing the San Diego of the Early and mid 70's to the San Diego of today is kinda like comparing an Apple to an Apple-seed. San Diego is a larger market comparative to those days. On the other hand there is something to be said for TSL as Jeff mentioned earlier, and I think that KNX already statisfies as the all news choice for San Diegans. As I recall, news is still relatively quiet in San Diego on the weekends, so what do you fill with? People who need news all the time can just turn to CNN or HNN.
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2007, 04:30:04 PM »

How trendy that today's summer phase one for 1360 .... are best viewed at http://RadioDailyNews.com ....
KFI has a larger audience in Sandy Eggo than KLSD ....
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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2007, 11:46:18 AM »

"Comparing the San Diego of the Early and mid 70's to the San Diego of today is kinda like comparing an Apple to an Apple-seed. San Diego is a larger market comparative to those days. On the other hand there is something to be said for TSL as Jeff mentioned earlier, and I think that KNX already statisfies as the all news choice for San Diegans. As I recall, news is still relatively quiet in San Diego on the weekends, so what do you fill with? People who need news all the time can just turn to CNN or HNN".

Not really Garrett, it may actually be ranked a little lower in terms of market size than it was in the 70's.
It's all relative. If you were to argue that the quality of talent is higher today, I would suggest you seek professional help. KSDO was a great operation in the late 70's with Joe Gillispie. Hal Brown, John DeMott,
etc. KSDO into the 90's was a quality operation, until Clear Channel picked it dry. The 90's team anchored by Ernie Myers was also excellent. A KSDO type format would work today.
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2007, 03:40:07 PM »

It will be sad to lose the KLSD format but I think Air America needs a better signal like KOGO. That would be the smart move right there.
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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2007, 06:13:01 PM »

I think that KNX already statisfies as the all news choice for San Diegans. As I recall, news is still relatively quiet in San Diego on the weekends, so what do you fill with? People who need news all the time can just turn to CNN or HNN.

Come on G-Dawg, listening to traffic on the 5's and the 101 Freeway and the 10 mess is not Sandy Eggo News. As for news: It's only quiet because there is not a full time active reportin' news radio staff.

I point to AM 640 KFI as a prime example of how a full time news staff 24 hours a day seven days a week can work effectively. More news about the region.

Alas, anchors can not be like Ron Burgundy, legendary and trusted San Diego anchor who often said on those snowy cold wind-drift San Diego nights: Good evening. I'm Ron Burgundy and here's what happening in your world tonight.
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2007, 07:03:10 PM »

"Comparing the San Diego of the Early and mid 70's to the San Diego of today is kinda like comparing an Apple to an Apple-seed. San Diego is a larger market comparative to those days. On the other hand there is something to be said for TSL as Jeff mentioned earlier, and I think that KNX already statisfies as the all news choice for San Diegans. As I recall, news is still relatively quiet in San Diego on the weekends, so what do you fill with? People who need news all the time can just turn to CNN or HNN".

Not really Garrett, it may actually be ranked a little lower in terms of market size than it was in the 70's.
It's all relative. If you were to argue that the quality of talent is higher today, I would suggest you seek professional help. KSDO was a great operation in the late 70's with Joe Gillispie. Hal Brown, John DeMott,
etc. KSDO into the 90's was a quality operation, until Clear Channel picked it dry. The 90's team anchored by Ernie Myers was also excellent. A KSDO type format would work today.

Really? I thought it would be bigger, with the increased traffic and all.
I would never suggest that the quality of talent is higher today, not that there isn't good talent in San Diego now, but I agree that radio corps aren't paying for talent anymore. They would rather have people like me, who can press an F9 key once an hour.

I thought Ron Burgundy was a fictional character modeled after someone who worked in Sacramento?
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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2007, 11:12:21 PM »

I thought Ron Burgundy was a fictional character modeled after someone who worked in Sacramento?

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, "There you go again, G-Dawg, thinking again."

His legendary newscasts on Channel 4 and the in-street tiffs with public television are ... well, legendary.
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