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Author Topic: WROR ends Xmas programming 12:01 am.  (Read 1027 times)
scooty430
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2007, 09:54:49 PM »

Don't get the "restricted playlist = better ratings" mentality.  Didn't the success (in most places) of JACK-FM disprove that theory? 

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Eli Polonsky
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2007, 06:47:23 AM »


Don't get the "restricted playlist = better ratings" mentality.  Didn't the success (in most places) of JACK-FM disprove that theory? 


"Jack"/Adult Variety Hits formats have had varying amounts of success in different markets. They've done very well in some, mediocre to middling in many, and poorly in some others (it failed in NYC). That may depend on certain local factors such as an individual stations execution of the format, and what competition for the demo exists in a given market.

However, "Jack"/Adult Variety Hits playlists are not really the "unrestricted" "free-form we-play-everything" formats that they're promoted as. They're basically Classic Hits stations heaviest on primarily '80s and '70s pop hits (their core demo), dipping back to some tried and true '60s hit oldies, sprinking in a few more modern mainstream hits from the '90s and '00s, and occasionally throwing in something that seems oddball (such as a Country or Rap hit) to create the impression of "free-form", but if you listen frequently, there's just as much daily repetition of most of their songs as any other mainstream commercial format. It's basically a '70s/'80s pop hits core (which includes mainly classic rock hits and some R&B/dance/disco hits) with some occasional odd stuff thrown in around it once in a while.

Unlike "Jack"/Adult Variety Hits stations, Classic Hits and Oldies stations still depend on the predominant demo that wants restricted playlists, and wants to be sure to hear one of their tried and true favorites each and every time they turn on the radio. They're not the "Jack" audience that might enjoy something odd thrown in once in a while.

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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2007, 07:50:06 AM »

Anyone else notice the brand new jingles WODS got for Christmas and began airing today? They're a significant upgrade from the stuff they've been using for the past 6 years or so. Back to the classic sound of JAM! They're some of the same ones CBS-FM uses, WABC resings, and a few I don't recognize.

now if they could only follow CBS-FM's example and start playing more 80s and have a little less repetition of what they do play.

Toss in a few things like sprinkles of 50s tunes (one or two now and then) ,the LP version of Light My Fire, Stairway to Heavrn among others.
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2007, 10:22:42 AM »

I can't picture WODS playing Stairway to Heaven at this point (not even the similarly titled but totally
unrelated Neil Sedaka hit: http://www.lyricsdepot.com/neil-sedaka/stairway-to-heaven.html  )
as they may feel it's too "heavy". Who knows. I have hit the button for WROR and heard certain songs
and said to myself, this song would only be on 'ROR, not 'ODS (example: 80s artists like U2, or some
heavier tunes). WODS has sprinkled some 80s in, though--perhaps time to add more (do they play
Huey Lewis?)

btw one Christmas gift I got was a 2 CD best of Dolly Parton and one song, "We Used to", has an intro
that sounds almost note-for-note like the intro to Led Zep's "Stairway"! No lawsuit though.
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2007, 10:45:46 AM »

Well, so far, I have yet to return to Oldies 103 and briefly tuned into WROR on the drive home tonite.  It was nice to hear Kim Collins's voice and "regular" music but, somehow, I found myself scanning back to what I've been listening to over the last 6 weeks or so which, for the most part, has been Mike-FM. 

Both ODS and ROR may have lost me as a regular listener.  But I reserve the right to change my mind.   Grin

I'm with you, WMS.......I hardly remember what stations I had on my presets before Veterans Day when they all started flipping to Christmas music 24/7......and I haven't added them back, either.......I knew I had removed WODS and WSNE, but totally forgot about WROR until I read this thread...........the only station I didn't take off my presets due to Christmas programming was WCOD, but only because I didn't have another station to replace it with...........pretty bad when you can't come up with 12 stations you enjoy listening to in November and December.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2007, 03:13:17 PM »

The fact is CBS-FM has found a way to do it right.

The greatest hits of the 60s,the 70, and now the 80s with a sprinkle of 50s.

With the exection of the Christmas book WJMN is AHEAd of Oldies 103 in 25-54.
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Eli Polonsky
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2007, 07:22:04 PM »


btw one Christmas gift I got was a 2 CD best of Dolly Parton and one song, "We Used to", has an intro
that sounds almost note-for-note like the intro to Led Zep's "Stairway"! No lawsuit though.


Dolly actually covered "Stairway To Heaven" on her 2002 CD "Halos and Horns", and she can be seen performing the song on her 2004 DVD "Live and Well".

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