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aaronread
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Re: DTV Coupons
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2008, 07:47:08 AM »

I can't speak too much for DTV specifically...but in general amplified antennas are bad news.  There is no magical way to increase signal level other than having higher antenna gain.  And the only way to achieve that is a bigger antenna with more surface area.  Try your local Radio Shack, they have a decent UHF antenna that's rear-mount directional for about $30.  Admittedly, it'd be a bit unwieldy and ugly in your living room, but it's not so huge that it'll be THAT obnoxious outside.

Amplifiers may raise the signal but usually they just raise the noise floor right along with it; the end result is worse because a good tuner can get a weak-but-clean signal, but no tuner can handle tons of noise.

Terrain matters with UHF...a lot.  In general, the higher the frequency, the more susceptible to terrain interference it becomes.  That's why most of the REALLY tall towers were originally built by/for TV stations.  And UHF is the highest freq's for TV.  So if there's any way to get your TV antenna up on your roof, that might help a great deal...especially if it's above the treeline (or close to above it).

Also, some amplifiers don't amplify the right frequencies.  HD Radio is not DTV and vice-versa, but I know of some "amplified HD Radio" antennas that don't have enough bandwidth to properly pass the IBOC carriers...so this "HD Radio" antenna will actually make it near-impossible to receive HD Radio.   Shocked
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2008, 09:13:54 AM »

I have read in a number of places that the antennas available here: http://antennasdirect.com/index.html are some of the best for DTV reception.  Their design is very similar to the design of the "coat hanger HDTV" antenna from YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzw.  I haven't tried one, though, so I can't verify anything...
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2008, 10:16:38 AM »

I've though about going with a DB2/4/8 or a Channel Master 4228(HD) or the lesser model, and putting it up inside pointing out my best reception location, the second-floor windows.

But I don't really want overkill.  I can pick up all but the Cleveland NBC and PBS affiliates right now, with any modest antenna...and those two are moving to better facilities by the transition.  The CBS affiliate is a pain, but I CAN pick it up.

I generally agree with Aaron about amplified antennas, in principle, though they work OK for me here.  I think some work better than others - some seem to be "noisier".

Again, as the saying goes, high and outside, and away from obstructions, is the best - if you can do that.
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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2008, 10:44:47 AM »

Several folk I know have had much better success with antennas in their attic or crawl space. Height means everything, and it's much easier to mount one inside than it is outside. Of course, a metal roof would preclude that option.
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2008, 01:57:08 AM »

Amplifiers may be helpful if you are putting a TV antenna up high. UHF likes high antennas, but signal loss through coax is also greater as frequency increases. If you'll need 50' of coax to reach your antenna, or intend to run a splitter, an amplifier can be a good thing.

I'm fortunate. Here in Salt Lake City, the TV stations are all on very high spots surrounding the valley. I get 23 DTV channels on a 12" piece of wire stuck in the converter's coax jack.
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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2008, 05:56:20 PM »

In my experience, if you have a Radio Shack amplifier take it out.  When I removed my amp, the signal went up by 8-10 points on my Dish Network receiver and the drop outs stopped.  I was using a newer RS pre-amp with amplifier unit located near the TV.  The signal to noise ratio on those amps are terrible.
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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2008, 06:13:45 PM »

Thanks for the advice... I'll try your suggestions (other than the roof antenna!) and see what happens.  My daughter wants the other converter box; she's upstairs on the southeast corner of the house and should therefore have the clearest path to Pinnacle Hill. 

Stay tuned...
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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2008, 04:25:13 AM »

I live about 30 miles from Rochester and have had good luck - with analog - with a roof antenna and an amplifier. I receive 8, 10, and 13 quite well and 21 and 31 OK. I'm wondering what DTV will bring for me.
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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2008, 02:15:42 PM »

Coupons came today - now all I have to do is find a decent converter. Looks like the Zenith DTT901 is the one.
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2008, 07:57:00 AM »

Looking forward to hearing about your experience, Mike... keep us posted!
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