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BossJock1947
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Personal Lives???
« on: November 18, 2008, 03:44:21 AM »

WCSX says Deminski & Doyle cover "a wide variety of topics, from serious issues to comedy, while also sharing with listeners more insight into their personal lives than most traditional radio shows

Oh so this is the reason they're better because they talk motre about their personal lives? LOL!!

I find that so damn boring and narcissistic 
. Radio is filled with it!  Absurd Thinking!! Cry

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Re: Personal Lives???
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 03:57:20 AM »

Nope. Lot's of successful jox do the "personal stuff" AFTER they serve their market. The personal stuff adds some flavor that says, "I'm like you!" Don't over do it.
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Re: Personal Lives???
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2008, 06:50:09 AM »

Well said. It makes the hosts human and builds a bond with the listeners, if, as you said, you don't over do it.
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SallysPizza
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Re: Personal Lives???
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2008, 04:57:45 PM »

When listeners can relate to the people they listen to, they stay around longer.  Can you say TSL?  Now, I'm not sure how that plays out with the PPM, but in the books it made a difference.  We'll see what happens with PPM.  The most successful air talents have always shown their "non-DJ" side.   Don't you want to hang with someone you can relate to?  That's what listening to the radio is supposed to be...hanging out with a friend.  I love Rush, but I could never see myself hanging with him.  I feel like I could hang with D&D, although I did not listen to them for awhile before they left 97.1.  That was because I was a Howard Stern fan and when he left, so did I.  Nothing to do with D&D.  It just wasn't a preset on my radio anymore.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 11:59:59 PM »

When listeners can relate to the people they listen to, they stay around longer.  Can you say TSL?  Now, I'm not sure how that plays out with the PPM, but in the books it made a difference.  We'll see what happens with PPM.  The most successful air talents have always shown their "non-DJ" side.   Don't you want to hang with someone you can relate to?  That's what listening to the radio is supposed to be...hanging out with a friend.  I love Rush, but I could never see myself hanging with him.  I feel like I could hang with D&D, although I did not listen to them for awhile before they left 97.1.  That was because I was a Howard Stern fan and when he left, so did I.  Nothing to do with D&D.  It just wasn't a preset on my radio anymore.

people listen to rush for several reasons.

1: He's got talent to go further than just stting around a mic talking about [EDIT-offensive content]
2: he's content oriented and packages in a humouros way.

3: more people hang with rush everyday than all your morning shows put together.
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Re: Personal Lives???
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2008, 12:04:05 PM »

Ya know what BossJock1947, I am a huge fan of Rush, but I could never imagine being able to hang with him.  It's on a different level and yes, millions hang with him.  Maybe you shouldn't try to read between the lines so much and make something out of nothing.  I could never imagine hanging with anyone on that level at a bar or restaurant talking about my kids, my job, whatever.  That's what I meant about hanging with.  Rush, Sean Hannity, Howard Stern, Ryan Seacrest, Tom Leykis, whatever are in a different league.  I used Rush as the example because he is one of the top most known on that level.  I think having people you can relate to who shop in your own area and their kids go to school in your own area is very important.  Unfortunately, radio companies feel that syndication is more important and that has taken jobs away from the local people.  I don't believe in the all syndication route the industry has taken.  If that bothers you, too bad. 
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Re: Personal Lives???
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2008, 12:07:48 PM »

By the way, nice mouth.  Kiss your mother with that?
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 11:18:54 PM »

Ya know what BossJock1947, I am a huge fan of Rush, but I could never imagine being able to hang with him.  It's on a different level and yes, millions hang with him.  Maybe you shouldn't try to read between the lines so much and make something out of nothing.  I could never imagine hanging with anyone on that level at a bar or restaurant talking about my kids, my job, whatever.  That's what I meant about hanging with.  Rush, Sean Hannity, Howard Stern, Ryan Seacrest, Tom Leykis, whatever are in a different league.  I used Rush as the example because he is one of the top most known on that level.  I think having people you can relate to who shop in your own area and their kids go to school in your own area is very important.  Unfortunately, radio companies feel that syndication is more important and that has taken jobs away from the local people.  I don't believe in the all syndication route the industry has taken.  If that bothers you, too bad. 

Sally:  if you can find local people who can garner as large an audience as a Rush...or whomever, by all means, a station would be crazy to replace local with syndicated.  And, there are markets where this is being done.

The unfortunate fact is:  in a lot of markets the "local" talent proves to be second-rate, ratings-wise, to the syndicated talent, which is why they are eventually replaced.

Not in every market...and not at every station.  But a station with a solid line-up of syndicated, proven talent can often do better than the local yokels they can find who spend 3-4 hours talking about property taxes.  The ratings don't lie...and therein lies the proof of the argument.

There is room for local talk...but there is not room for local talk, necessarily, at every talk station.
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AugC
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Re: Personal Lives???
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2008, 01:36:14 AM »

I agree, Jason, on just about every point..UNTIL you said that not every talk station needs local talk...I disagree strongly on that position...YOU DO NEED LOCAL TALK! I think a LIVE, LOCAL ( morning show) being news, traffic, and weather instensive is perfect. You need to develop new talk talent instead of relying of the syndicates all the time. Using the PUBLIC'S airwaves to make $$$, you should have the responsibility of having . developing local talk show host(tesses) and having shows reflecting the community. Start these folks on overnights/weekends. Funding may be lacking, but it's an investment! Local talk is important...don't kid yourself.
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SallysPizza
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Re: Personal Lives???
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2008, 04:51:18 PM »

AugC-you are so right!  Imagine if the Yankees or the Red Sox, whomever, stopped developing their benches or their pitching staff???!!!  There are some games where teams go through 4 or 5 pitchers, usually in a BIG game such as a playoff series.  That's what radio has stopped doing.  Rush WAS a disc jockey when he started.  Then somewhere along the line, he was developed into the personality he is today.  Same with Stern, Imus, Mancow, Russ Parr, Delilah, Kidd Kraddick, etc.  They were once on only one station.  Along the line, they were developed into the type of personality that could be marketed outside of their market.  Notice that radio is running out of those types of people and is now going to Hollywood for Mo'Nique, Steve Harvey, Adam Carolla, Ryan Seacrest (who was a disc jockey at KYSR when he started at American Idol), etc.  They have to reach outside of the industry because we have stopped developing talent and gone to VT'ing and syndication only.  But we have also stopped developing Programmers who can develop air talent.  Now, we'll take anyone on staff who will do what the consultant says at three stations and does one air shift and VT's another or more.  Seacrest is taking over midday and afternoons shows and these people are either kick out or put into overnights.  All because they don't want to spend money on benefits and salaries.  Eventually, the only live daypart may be mornings.  Kind of scary.  Think about the few situations that have happened regarding tornadoes in markets where many of the stations are VT'd and no one has the radio to depend upon for warnings any longer.  Once you can;t trust your radio for information, you can't trust your radio to be your friend.
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