TransLanTech Still Around?

[littlejohn]

If the client likes the sound, leave it be.  Later you can wow him with a new box.
As to the Airiane, I heard one which does nice things... lightly used.  I've heard a double handful being driven to 'light all the lights' mode and they, as you'd expect, sound like hammered dogchut.  The box has its uses, and also has - as do most of today's boxes - the potential to really hose up the audio.  Depends what you do with it.

[David Reaves]

If the client likes the sound, leave it be.  Later you can wow him with a new box.
As to the Airiane, I heard one which does nice things... lightly used.  I've heard a double handful being driven to 'light all the lights' mode and they, as you'd expect, sound like hammered dogchut.  The box has its uses, and also has - as do most of today's boxes - the potential to really hose up the audio.  Depends what you do with it.

Maybe there's some device called "Airiane," that I'm not familiar with. If you are speaking of the Ariane on the other hand, I think you are mistaken in your judgment.

The Ariane is, by design, the "anti-hammer." It simply doesn't have the capacity to "sound like hammered dogchut!" "Hosing" the audio is not in its vocabulary.

Uniquely, the Ariane algorithm, even fully wound-out, is "looking" for opportunities to STOP the process.

Littlejohn, if you are going to the NAB, please visit our booth. You can play with an Ariane, and hear for yourself. Set it however you like...I challenge you to make it sound like "dogchut." 

Kind Regards,
David

NAB booth N8724

[littlejohn]

I'd admire to, you pick up the ticket and I'll see if I can get loose for a couple of days.   It isn't unfortunately in my current budget.  And you can easily convince me that the box after yours is where the bad sound originates.... but the experience was/is, one of the stations  sounded real nice.  Many did not.  So, I suppose one could say the good one was the result of this box, but the bad ones were the result of those boxes over there after it?  Works for me.

[oldiesstation]

As with all processors,set up is the key,as you all know very well.i'm using the matrix default setting and running the total G/R on the 8100 alittle less than 10db and the combo is fantastic.Open and very smooth.I just didn't like the sound when i pushed the 8100 into 10-15db G/R.,although some claim that's the sweet spot..I will experiment with some suggestions other users sent,just been too busy to get er done.But you hate to mess with something that sounds good now.

[whitfm]

I have heard good things about the Arianne Sequel too. But would it make any difference on an FM station
that's using the lower priced Vorsis VP-8 for processing?

My small market client is real happy with his little Vorsis. But would having an Arianne in the audio chain make a difference in his on-air sound? And if so, what kind of difference? Or would it be overkill?

dx7   

With a VP-8 it would probably be overkill. The VP-8's AGC is a sum/difference-style AGC like the Ariane in Matrix mode. There are some differences, however, with the biggest probably being that the VP-8 has a compressor ganged to the AGC. The compression ratio is different as well, and I find that most VP-8 factory presets have much more L-R injection than Ariane presets do. I like the Ariane sound but it would not serve much of a purpose with a VP-8 (unless you were to defeat the AGC & compressor).

[fm-engineer]

Whit,

The Ariane is a much better AGC than most, if not all, stock internal AGC's.  I'm not sure about the Vorsis, but you can control how much L-R you want on the Ariane factory presets.  The matrix processing of the L-R can reveal more perceived separation with lower L-R injection levels.  The band 1 L-R mute is also handy too for multipath prone areas.     

[whitfm]

Whit,

The Ariane is a much better AGC than most, if not all, stock internal AGC's.  I'm not sure about the Vorsis, but you can control how much L-R you want on the Ariane factory presets.  The matrix processing of the L-R can reveal more perceived separation with lower L-R injection levels.  The band 1 L-R mute is also handy too for multipath prone areas.     

The VP-8 has separate controls for L-R drive (injection) at both the input of the AGC and the output. There is also a sum/diff HPF with an adjustable frequency on both.

I agree with your assessment of the Ariane. It's an excellent leveler. What I was trying to point out is that, considering the style of AGC that both of them are, the sound improvement would only be slight and thus not worth the cost (for most stations on a budget). I'm not trying to drive people away from the Ariane...just trying to lay out the technical side of this purchasing decision.

[Sgeirk]

The Ariane is great period...but if you're forced to have your processing out at the transmitter and you're running a digital STL or especially analog into a digital converter...nothing beats an Ariane to run protection...and to keep the processor at the other end in a sweet spot.

[PaulyBoy]

With a VP-8 it would probably be overkill. The VP-8's AGC is a sum/difference-style AGC like the Ariane in Matrix mode. There are some differences, however, with the biggest probably being that the VP-8 has a compressor ganged to the AGC. The compression ratio is different as well, and I find that most VP-8 factory presets have much more L-R injection than Ariane presets do. I like the Ariane sound but it would not serve much of a purpose with a VP-8 (unless you were to defeat the AGC & compressor).

Whit should've been at processing freak day in Netherlands. I was there and saw vorsis get embarassed in the A/B comparison with other processors. Even the vorsis guys could not make the box sound better than the competing processors.

[oldiesstation]

i hear the Omnia One FM with cg;s presets was a clear winner over the Vorsis.But i also hear Leif's Breakaway Broadcast Processor was the real head turner and caught quite a few ears by surprise.