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Author Topic: iBiquity & NPR "Strike a Deal" for 6dB Increase  (Read 559 times)
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« on: November 05, 2009, 12:57:41 PM »

Per a press release from iBiquity:

http://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/news_releases/2009/1388

They will supposedly push the FCC for quick adoption of a 6dB signal increase for HD, to -14dBc.  The release also talks about some sort of system for remediating interference from the signal increase.  If the past is any predictor of the future, I won't be holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 01:04:56 PM »

Let the trashing of FM begin! 

Good luck to all.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 03:31:08 PM »

They will supposedly push the FCC for quick adoption of a 6dB signal increase for HD, to -14dBc. 

That is a real stomach turner.  Fortunately, as far as the marketplace is concerned - it is all over except for the bankruptcies.  Anybody sinking money into this system will lose their money. 

The only good thing to come out of this whole HD fiasco is adaptive IF technology.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 04:13:01 PM »

I love my HD Cheesy.just needs more signal power
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 04:30:26 PM »

Just read the joint recommendations from NPR and iBiquity filed with the Commission.  Here's Today's Really Big Laugh:

As part of their joint submission, "interference remediation procedures" specifically refer to "existing procedures for AM IBOC interference resolution" and continues to include the same language setting forth the same procedures for resolving FM adjacent-channel interference complaints.

You know: the SAME procedures which the Commission has refused to follow in cases of AM interference.  As in, the "interference" which the Enforcement Bureau has ignored over and over regarding AM IBOC.

"Interference?  We don't hear it.  Was there something else you wanted to discuss?"
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 08:02:10 PM »

Just read the joint recommendations from NPR and iBiquity filed with the Commission.  Here's Today's Really Big Laugh:

As part of their joint submission, "interference remediation procedures" specifically refer to "existing procedures for AM IBOC interference resolution" and continues to include the same language setting forth the same procedures for resolving FM adjacent-channel interference complaints.

You know: the SAME procedures which the Commission has refused to follow in cases of AM interference.  As in, the "interference" which the Enforcement Bureau has ignored over and over regarding AM IBOC.

"Interference?  We don't hear it.  Was there something else you wanted to discuss?"

IBOC has wrecked the AM band. Why not give FM operators (and their listeners) the chance to experience this goodness?

I'm all for it! This should hasten the transition away from terrestrial broadcasting to other media sources.

Time to fire up my MacBook and listen to Internet radio...
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 01:56:13 AM »

Why are so many broadcasters stubborn about dumping IBOC and re-focusing on quality analog audio for those of us who still enjoy tuning in. Hd radio is a clunker (I know first hand) that I doubt will be significantly improved with this increase for the less than 1% of radio listeners who actually have the radios.  And, it will add unremovable  noise to the audio which will make even the nicest analog FM tuners sound like something from Fisher-Price. A big shame!       
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 06:47:18 AM »

scanman1 posed the very logical question:

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Why are so many broadcasters stubborn about dumping IBOC and re-focusing on quality analog audio for those of us who still enjoy tuning in? Hd radio is a clunker (I know first hand) that I doubt will be significantly improved with this increase for the less than 1% of radio listeners who actually have the radios.  And, it will add unremovable noise to the audio which will make even the nicest analog FM tuners sound like something from Fisher-Price. A big shame!

To "dump" is to "fail".  The stations who signed on to the IBOC pipe dream have committed serious funds to it and this equipment needs to be depreciated.  To abandon it now means utter and complete embarrassing failure.

Also, the chairperson of iBiquity absolutely and positively needs to have an IPO before the company goes bankrupt.  If he does not get that IPO done, then he stands to lose an awful lot, both personally and corporately.  There has been an incredibly high amount of speculative investment in HD Radio.  These investors need to get repaid.  The IPO is the only way this can happen now, since sales will never ever arrive at the level they would need to be to actually turn this technology into a money maker.

Our illustrious chairperson needs to keep spinning Wall Street into his "HD web of success".  Eventually, Wall Street will believe him and the dynamics required to launch an IPO will become self-sustaining.  The stations which have already installed HD need to stick with it so that they are there when the IPO is launched and HD is declared to be the true savior of broadcast radio that Wall Street will think it is.

More than a big shame, it is really all quite disgusting and is an example of corporate greed at its absolute worst.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 07:18:42 AM »

If the IPO is essential to iBiquity's future, better get First Officer Lightoller to start shouting: "Please stay calm, and it's women and children first.  Do not rush the lifeboats."

Know how many IPOs there have been this year?  Try....twelve.

Due to chaos in the financial markets IPOs have essentially ceased.  Some observers opine that they'll never return, at least with a presence like they had in the go-go 90s.

Let's check back in a year and see just HOW many stations have added the 6 dB digital.  Shall we?  Hmmmmm??
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 12:41:31 PM »

From the Article:

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November 5, 2010, Washington, DC; iBiquity Digital Corporation and NPR announced an agreement for managing
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