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Author Topic: OT...Want a New G-8 for Half Price?  (Read 1938 times)
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Re: OT...Want a New G-8 for Half Price?
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2010, 08:09:51 AM »

If anyone missed the National Geographic Store

promotion on the Grundig G-8 with DSP new for half price,

they still offer it:

http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/product/gear-%26-gadgets/radios/traveler-shortwave-radio
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Re: OT...Want a New G-8 for Half Price?
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2010, 10:03:30 AM »

If anyone missed the National Geographic Store

promotion on the Grundig G-8 with DSP new for half price,

they still offer it:

http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/product/gear-%26-gadgets/radios/traveler-shortwave-radio

Agreed that it is a steal at that price!  I'm actually tempted to buy yet another because it's become my 'go to' radio to take outside or wherever.  Good enough to provide excellent dxing, yet cheap and durable enough to not worry about if it's frigid or raining. 
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Re: OT...Want a New G-8 for Half Price?
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2010, 12:16:27 AM »

The signal strength meter for FM is about 20-30 dB lower than the expected field strength according to Radio-Locator's maps. This is a great portable radio for DXing. The soft muting "feature" makes it annoying to listen to local FMs when moving but it has better sensitivity than my car radio and my HD radio. The selectivity is impressive. Just 2 miles away from a Class A, the first adjacents have distant stations with zero splatter from the local.
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Re: OT...Want a New G-8 for Half Price?
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2010, 06:39:50 AM »

The signal strength meter for FM is about 20-30 dB lower than the expected field strength according to Radio-Locator's maps.

Yes, I ran some bench tests a few weeks ago and confirmed this.   The difference is mainly due to your height above ground level; FCC predictions are based on a 9 meter (~30 ft) height, at which level the field strength is usually at least 15 dB greater than at one or two meters above the ground.   Also, as you realize, the telescoping whip antenna is less efficient than a 1/2 wave dipole, so that probably accounts for another 8 to 10 dB.   At FM frequencies, even a true balanced dipole would produce about 50% (6 dB) less voltage at its terminals than the actual field strength after converting from volts/meter to volts.   

I did observe that the meter is quite linear in the FM band up to 70 dBu, then it goes into saturation.   

For 25 bucks, you can learn a lot about VHF propagation with one of these -- for example, check the field strength in front of an office building, then walk inside and watch how quickly it drops.   You'll then understand that a 6 dB increase in digital power might only gain one row of cubicles.

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Re: OT...Want a New G-8 for Half Price?
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2010, 06:42:44 AM »

Yeah - if you're actually interested in learning how much (or how little) a digital HD power increase means in the real world, that is.  Wink
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Re: OT...Want a New G-8 for Half Price?
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2010, 03:48:32 AM »

The National Geographic Store promotion on this
appears to be over.
However,you can get one from Radio Shack
for $29.99 until November 27th:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3767071
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