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Kelly Watts
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Re: Old Broadcast Automation
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2010, 10:14:25 AM »

My frst experience with automation was a home brew system at WMPT FM South Williamsport, Pa in1968.,  We used it 7 to midnight becasue the owner wanted to keep rock off the air in the evening.  The system was designed by our Chief Engineer Alan Preuss and had a big of Skully Reel to Reel, a SMC 24 cart carousel, an SMC stereo recorder/playback (we used that for station id's), a home brew silence sensor, and auto fader to join ABC news.  I worked pretty well but you had to remember to change tapes during the news since you only had one reel to reel. Eventually we got smart and carted some "emergency" songs for reel change.

Programing was from IGM the Beautiful Muisc package and Music with McMaster (Don McMaster) anyone remember that package?

We also recorded and produced a couple of local music suhows including one for Fulton Piano & Organs that ran once a week.  We recorded it in the store and manually played it back.

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Kent T
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« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2010, 05:45:06 PM »

Began my career in radio as a combo DJ/engineering assistant. AM ran live on 13 year old equipment in 1973. FM ran on first an old stepper driven Gates system with Scully 270 playback decks and IGM carousels. We called it Mother F'er when it got temperamental. We ran Schulke beautiful music with good old 10khz frequency response off of his high speed duped tapes. And our Gates FM-5H with a TE-3 exciter and 9 db stereo separation on a good day. Replaced Schulke with Bonneville Beautiful Music and a shiny new RCA Exciter and HH Scott Stereo Generator and life was better. Later on, got a shiny new Harris Stereo 80 the year they got reliable. With that Harris elevator cart machine which did that jamming, burning the motor up, and eating the heads of carts. I called it Peter, Peter, Cart Eater, And had ReVox PR 99 decks and all was otherwise rational and sane. Replaced that Harris elevator system with another pair of IGM carousels and life was good. Dubbed a lot of carts when that elevator system wanted dinner and a snack.
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Mike Sheridan
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Re: Old Broadcast Automation
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2010, 12:46:43 AM »

Wow Kent, the systems I used worked great in comparison!  The Broadcast Products AR-2000 had a major power supply problem once, and the Instacarts on the Harris System 90 would slip past their cue tones but that was about it. 
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Kent T
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« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2010, 05:13:19 PM »

If Bill and I had the choice, we would have had the IGM Instacarts installed when the Stereo 80 was ordered. They were an optional. That Harris Elevator system was the only bad thing about our Stereo 80. Once the Instacarts were installed, that system ran great. We had very few misfires on the cue tones. And Bonneville Beautiful Music sounded great on this system. That old system still runs on one of the stations I engineer for and does subcarrier duty. Run a music program on subcarrier for hospitals and nursing homes and have 3 SCA programs. One is beautiful, one light rock, and one country. I began my broadcasting career at age 9 years. Was a short, gimpy, special needs kid who could solder well, knew his way around cranky gear and was dependable.
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ncradioeng
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Re: Old Broadcast Automation
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2010, 08:42:44 AM »

Ditto on the Instacarts over the others.  When you learned how to fix one tray, then you knew how to fix the 47 others.  Had an AM and FM that ran four Instacarts on each.  That was a noisy room.  When they went to satellite, I modified the right-most column on two of the machines (one AM and one FM) to have a separate audio output that was connected after the switcher.  The twelve carts in that column were divided into groups of four - each group held a jock's backsell, image and return liners.  The automation could then select a group to run from a time-of-day relay pulse scheduled when the jocks changed.  This routed the liner closures to the proper group during the day without having to change carts and allowed for the random closures to place the liner audio on air without having to be in the program log.   
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David Reaves
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« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2010, 02:29:24 PM »

If Bill and I had the choice, we would have had the IGM Instacarts installed when the Stereo 80 was ordered. They were an optional. <snip>

I installed a second-hand Instacart-based automation system in the mid 80s. It was pretty beat. Grin
We called the system "FRED" (F-ing ridiculous electronic device). We were using it with a satellite feed of Transtar's "Format 41," where the 'local' announcer station ID bits were on multiple carts, and they were fired from the same-voice DJ right before he would say something live at the network, in an attempt to sound local and live (nice try, but no banana).

At any rate, an Instacart deck would slip cue every once in a while.  It was pretty funny to hear, every 20 seconds or so, "There's nothing quite like 16 AM!"
You had to have a sense of humor with that thing. Yes, nothing quite like it, LOL!

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David P. Reaves, III
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Re: Old Broadcast Automation
« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2011, 06:29:05 PM »

some great stories about mechanical automation guys! Smiley


someone asked me recently if anyone actually kept tapes of the beautiful music format. I have some radio arts and drake chenault tapes of rock/pop formats, but never came across the beautiful music format anywhere. I'm guessin most of that stuff was tossed in addition to the automation systems themselves. shame. would have been fun to see one work, as I was too young for that.


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Re: Old Broadcast Automation
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2011, 03:28:45 PM »

I have 8 to 10 of the old SRP "Schulke Radio Productions" tapes.
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« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2011, 12:14:53 PM »

Hi:

I worked at WBYU-FM in New Orleans in the early 1980's. They ran Schulke, then Bonneville Easy Listening.

We had an IGM 500 system. Fun to operate!

It'd be fun to transfer a set of Schulke tapes to HD and play the format on Part 15.

Thanks for all the automation stories.

Dan
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Kent T
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« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2011, 07:58:25 PM »

Is it possible for me to get a copy of one of the Schulke tapes for old time's sake to remind me of days of old? If so, please chime in!
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