Limbaugh/Premier Radio smelling of fear?

[thebroker]

> Well, are you familiar at all with WWRC?  Hardly anyone can
> pick the station up!  The signal has horrible coverage!
>
> Do us all a favor.  Stop trying to learn about radio by
> reading right-wing blogs.





Well, if AAR was as great as you say, shouldn't they be on a better stick?!

And, for your information, I have learned the radio business through experience. I started my career as a board-op, and worked my way up from there. I have been a very successful Owner, GM, and PD. The stations I have owned have all been sold at a profit, because I understand the business. Now, I have a very successful brokerage and consulting firm, which, again, is successful because I understand the business. Frankly, I couldn't have achieved what I have if I "learn about radio by reading right-wing blogs".

I'm incredibly sorry that the format you want to hear on radio is not successful. However, this gives you absolutely no grounds to attack me personally.

[RushThis]

You guys are missing the point.  The fact is...

Rush is a talented, established talk show host who is able to ENTERTAIN across party lines.  There are times when I don't always agree with what he says, but I am still entertained by him.

However, Al Franken has forgotten how to do comedy.  He's (and the rest of AIR AMERICA) are too caught up in moving their agenda forward.  They forgot that people would rather be entertained than to be spouted at.  In other word, they suck.  

OBVIOUSLY, there's a buch of weekend board ops on this board who are having fun trying to defend their liberal ways.  It's obvious that you wouldn't know good radio if it smacked you in the face.

It's easier to get your point across if you're entertaining the audience.  AIR AMERICA is full of a bunch of AIRHEADS who are not only on a bunch of crappy stations... but WILL STAY THERE.

Ripping off charities aside.

"The Broker" has is down boys.  Take heed!!!!!!!

RushTHIS!











> Premiere Radio just put out another press release comparing
> Limbaugh's numbers to Franken's, among others.
>
> This press release, relying as it does on 12+ individual
> market numbers and 25-54 aggregate numbers (carefully
> omitting any mention of 25-54 individual market numbers), is
> clearly counter propaganda to the Air America press release
> about newcomer Franken beating long-established Limbaugh
> 25-54 in two very specific markets, Portland OR, and San
> Francisco CA.
>
> Of course, the 10-market and 25-market aggregations cited in
> the Premiere press release include markets where Franken
> doesn't even air, so it's a slightly dishonest
> apples-to-oranges comparison.
>
> Considering how young the Air America product is, and how
> underpowered its stations are in most markets, the fact that
> Limbaugh feels threatened enough to drive Premiere Radio to
> play this sort of statistical PR game against Franken is a
> tribute to Air America's success so far -- or just evidence
> of Limbaugh's dawning recognition of his inevitable slide
> from the top of the heap.
>

[RushThis]

Excuse me sir, but you are an idiot.

It's obvious that you learned radio from Al Franken and Jenneane Garafolo... a couple of washed up comedians who are looking for purpose in their life as their half-assed comedy careers dry up.

Perhaps if you would "get with the real world", you might see that it's all about who gets the listeners.  AIR AMERICA is full of no-talents who do not entertain.  Agenda aside- if you don't entertain, you don't get lsietenrs.  Rush does this everyday.  Al Franken makes me want to hurl- he is only concerned with HIS agenda- not that of his audience.

Make a note of this boys.  You'll see a year from now- after AIR AMERICA is off the air and it's management is locked up in prison for "shady" money deals- that, as usual...

I AM RIGHT.

Get a grip and go back to dropping in the spots during that Rick Dees show you're running.

Today is the day you learned the truth.



> > Since you have cited AAR's gains in Portland and San
> > Francisco, let's talk about another major market where the
>
> > network is a loser. Washington's WWRC(AM) saw it's ratings
>
> > drop from bad to nil during the last book, with no
> > measurable audience.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is even cited in a recent story from the Washington
> > Post...
> >
> http://www.washingtonpos>
> t.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/19/AR2005101902345.html
>
> >
> >
> > Check the last paragraph of the story.
> >
>
>
> Well, are you familiar at all with WWRC?  Hardly anyone can
> pick the station up!  The signal has horrible coverage!
>
> Do us all a favor.  Stop trying to learn about radio by
> reading right-wing blogs.
>

[k9ez]

> > Since you have cited AAR's gains in Portland and San
> > Francisco, let's talk about another major market where the
>
> > network is a loser. Washington's WWRC(AM) saw it's ratings
>
> > drop from bad to nil during the last book, with no
> > measurable audience.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is even cited in a recent story from the Washington
> > Post...
> >
> http://www.washingtonpos>
> t.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/19/AR2005101902345.html
>
> >
> >
> > Check the last paragraph of the story.
> >
>
>
> Well, are you familiar at all with WWRC?  Hardly anyone can
> pick the station up!  The signal has horrible coverage!
>
> Do us all a favor.  Stop trying to learn about radio by
> reading right-wing blogs.
>


YAWN, the same old tired attacks stike again.......  Obviously ANYONE that disagrees with you is a right wing idiot.  

WWRC is only one of the stations that carry AAR.  And if AAR was so great, why did they have ratings BEFORE AAR, but dont know???  Obviously SOMEONE was listening before AAR.  Obviously someone can get the signal.

[FightingIrish]

> > Well, are you familiar at all with WWRC?  Hardly anyone
> can
> > pick the station up!  The signal has horrible coverage!
> >
> > Do us all a favor.  Stop trying to learn about radio by
> > reading right-wing blogs.
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, if AAR was as great as you say, shouldn't they be on a
> better stick?!
>
> And, for your information, I have learned the radio business
> through experience. I started my career as a board-op, and
> worked my way up from there. I have been a very successful
> Owner, GM, and PD. The stations I have owned have all been
> sold at a profit, because I understand the business. Now, I
> have a very successful brokerage and consulting firm, which,
> again, is successful because I understand the business.
> Frankly, I couldn't have achieved what I have if I "learn
> about radio by reading right-wing blogs".
>
> I'm incredibly sorry that the format you want to hear on
> radio is not successful. However, this gives you absolutely
> no grounds to attack me personally.
>

The point I'm getting at is that it is pretty ridiculous to use a station that can't even cover a sizeable portion of their market as a legitimate comparison.

I'm sorry that the conservatives here get a tad too touchy when I refute their talking points.  Jeez!

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The Liberal Talk Radio Update

[FightingIrish]

> > > Since you have cited AAR's gains in Portland and San
> > > Francisco, let's talk about another major market where
> the
> >
> > > network is a loser. Washington's WWRC(AM) saw it's
> ratings
> >
> > > drop from bad to nil during the last book, with no
> > > measurable audience.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is even cited in a recent story from the Washington
>
> > > Post...
> > >
> > http://www.washingtonpos>
> >
> t.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/19/AR2005101902345.html
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Check the last paragraph of the story.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Well, are you familiar at all with WWRC?  Hardly anyone
> can
> > pick the station up!  The signal has horrible coverage!
> >
> > Do us all a favor.  Stop trying to learn about radio by
> > reading right-wing blogs.
> >
>
>
> YAWN, the same old tired attacks stike again.......
> Obviously ANYONE that disagrees with you is a right wing
> idiot.  
>
> WWRC is only one of the stations that carry AAR.  And if AAR
> was so great, why did they have ratings BEFORE AAR, but dont
> know???  Obviously SOMEONE was listening before AAR.
> Obviously someone can get the signal.
>


Why is it that anytime I respond to a post, you get all hot about it?  And I never said anything about Mr. Broker being a right-wing idiot.  Granted, the thing about WWRC was in the post, but it was plastered all over RW blogs the past week.  How many times did we read about it on this board?

And WWRC's ratings prior to lib talk (as a FOX Sports affiliate) were pretty close to non-existent as well.

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The Liberal Talk Radio Update

[k9ez]

> > > > Since you have cited AAR's gains in Portland and San
> > > > Francisco, let's talk about another major market where
>
> > the
> > >
> > > > network is a loser. Washington's WWRC(AM) saw it's
> > ratings
> > >
> > > > drop from bad to nil during the last book, with no
> > > > measurable audience.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is even cited in a recent story from the
> Washington
> >
> > > > Post...
> > > >
> > > http://www.washingtonpos>
> > >
> >
> t.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/19/AR2005101902345.html
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Check the last paragraph of the story.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, are you familiar at all with WWRC?  Hardly anyone
> > can
> > > pick the station up!  The signal has horrible coverage!
> > >
> > > Do us all a favor.  Stop trying to learn about radio by
> > > reading right-wing blogs.
> > >
> >
> >
> > YAWN, the same old tired attacks stike again.......
> > Obviously ANYONE that disagrees with you is a right wing
> > idiot.  
> >
> > WWRC is only one of the stations that carry AAR.  And if
> AAR
> > was so great, why did they have ratings BEFORE AAR, but
> dont
> > know???  Obviously SOMEONE was listening before AAR.
> > Obviously someone can get the signal.
> >
>
>
> Why is it that anytime I respond to a post, you get all hot
> about it?  And I never said anything about Mr. Broker being
> a right-wing idiot.  Granted, the thing about WWRC was in
> the post, but it was plastered all over RW blogs the past
> week.  How many times did we read about it on this board?
>
> And WWRC's ratings prior to lib talk (as a FOX Sports
> affiliate) were pretty close to non-existent as well.
>


There are plenty of posts you haev made and I havent said a thing.  I DISAGREE WITH YOU.  That doesnt mean I am all "Hot and Bothered".  Why is that a difficult thing to understand?

Sorry I dont read BLOGS.  No need to, and really dont have a desire to.  I would not want to base my opinoins on what someone else has to say.  I can make up my own mind thank you.

[Scribbler]

> See my original post.
>
> Congratulations.  You started another political p*fest,
> which apparently is what you political groupies live for.
> This is a radio board.  Go find a political blog some place.

Tom's original post was about radio ratings, not politics.  Perhaps you should lie low for a while, now that you've demonstrated your ignorance about how radio ratings work.
>

[thebroker]

WWRC broadcasts from the center of DC...it's not as bad a signal as you seem to make it. I just ran a population study for the 2.5mV/m contour, and the signal covers AT LEAST 1,500,000 folks. However, let's assume it in fact IS a bad signal. The question becomes, why isn't AAR on a better signal in the market. The answer is quite simple. AAR is on shaky financial ground, and this fact is well-documented. Also, the network has no real history of ratings success. Therefore, why would any owner of a great signal take the risk with AAR? Simply put, they wouldn't. Why is Rush on the better signals? Because his show brings success for the owners.

I just wasted enough time to go through the 12+ ratings for ALL the markets where AAR airs. Sure, they are gaining audience. However, so is Rush. If Rush is on the way down, why did his listenership grow almost 2% last quarter? In 19 of 67 markets where AAR airs, the affiliates have NO measurable audience. AAR is a no-show in some big markets, including Detroit, Dallas, Minneapolis, and Atlanta. In fact, the network doesn't even have an affiliate in two top-ten markets, Houston and Philly. No audience in 28% of the markets where the network airs...yeah, that sounds like a threat to me!

[mwebster]

Maybe we do need a political board - just to have someplace to put all the political junkies, so people interested in radio can talk about talk radio and relevant issues of programming, sales and engineering.

The rabid political types that come on here - armed with the latest debating points from the political bloggers - just want to prove their political opinions are correct (and all others are wrong). And they are deluded enough to think that radio ratings have something to do with which political opinions are correct.

Both sides are self-rigtheous, narrow-minded true believers who - deep down - only want opinions they agree with expressed anywhere, including on the radio.

This is why political talk radio's audience is shrinking. This is why talk radio is becoming less and less about politics. Radio has finally figured out that most people are disgusted with political types and don't care about politics any more. Political talk radio will become as marginal as religious talk radio with a few brokered zealots on low-powered AM stations preaching to the already converted (and asking for money).

What is ironic, is political talk radio as we know it has had a pretty good 15 or so year run. For much of that time, liberals have been on the sidelines wringing their hands about how unfair it is that Rush and other conservatives dominate talk radio and radio stations don't present both sides - while doing absolutely nothing about it (except, in true liberal fashion, expressing concern and making weak noises about brining back The Fairness Doctrine). Just as the party is winding down for political talk radio, the liberals finally decide to get off their butts and show up. The most visible player among them does an especially half-assed job but, of course, liberals can't stand to hear that. The bottom line is the party is almost over and talk radio is moving to the next - non-political - phase.