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Author Topic: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)  (Read 3482 times)
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Re: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2010, 04:46:15 PM »

Here in Phoenix, you can still pick-up WBBM and WGN from Chicago, but you definitely need some patience and luck. The problem with “Radio 720”, WGN is that there is a lot of interference from KDWN out of Las Vegas. If you null it out and have a selective enough radio, WGN can actually come in pretty clear at times. WBBM “News Radio 78” is a bigger problem because there is a lot of spill-over interference from 770 KKOB out of Albuquerque, New Mexico. A very selective radio helps, but there is also a lot of interference from other stations on 780. There’s a small station out of Sedona on 780 that interferes sometimes, there’s a Mexican station on 780 that messes things up and, finally, the big trouble-maker is KOH out of Reno, Nevada. In the winter-time, WBBM is easier to pick-up and I actually heard it earlier tonight driving around Phoenix. Always nice to hear “WBBM news time is …”

You know you have WBBM coming in because it always seems to have a lower tone than the other stations on 780. I wonder why that is?

Yep, I've tried to dx Chicago signals from Salt Lake City a number of times in recent years and have basically had no luck.  WSCR is tough because of KBOI, then KLTT from the Denver market.  WGN is clobbered by KDWN which really could not be nulled out successfully from that area.  WBBM is clobbered during the early evening by KKOH Reno; later it's almost always KAZM from Sedona, which has an impressive signal to the north with a mere 250 watts.  WLS is a non-starter because of the dominance of KDXU. 

However, go just east of the valley - to a place like Park City that's east of the Wasatch Front - and you CAN pick up the likes of WGN, WBBM and (with a little luck) WSCR.  WLS is still very tough because of KDXU.  The farthest west that I got a whisper of WLS was Evanston, WY (78 miles NE of SLC).  And, even there, it was barely readable and crushed by multiple other signals.  Meanwhile, at the same time, WGN was dominating 720 and WBBM was coming in well too. 

My how things have changed. In the 60s all four Chicago clears were easily heard up & down the west coast almost everynight. In addition WLS could be heard into the late 80s on my visits to Southern California (KDXU signed off at midnight). In those days WLS always had the best skywave of any of the Chicago stations.
My farthest capture of Chicago was hearing both WBBM & WLS in Hawaii in November 1978.
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Re: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2010, 06:53:36 PM »


Haha, I'm 13 and couldn't believe there was a time when one could hear a Chicago station on the west coast.


I've heard WBBM 780 Chicago, WJR 760 Detroit, and WCKY 1530 Cincinatti, OH here in Bothell, WA.

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Re: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2010, 10:49:56 PM »


Haha, I'm 13 and couldn't believe there was a time when one could hear a Chicago station on the west coast.


I've heard WBBM 780 Chicago, WJR 760 Detroit, and WCKY 1530 Cincinatti, OH here in Bothell, WA.

-crainbebo

Didn't you once get WLS or am I mistaken?
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Re: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2010, 05:19:27 PM »

I certainly wouldn't forget if I picked up WLS
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Re: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2010, 08:22:18 PM »

I certainly wouldn't forget if I picked up WLS

I've picked up WLS-AM here in the suburbs Phoenix, but, again, like WBBM and WGN, it takes a lot of patience and luck. It is possible to pick up WLS if you null out KDXU and point your radio toward Chicago. 

Now I wouldn't be able to do this if I lived in the heart of Phoenix. If I did, both locals 910 AM and 860 AM run IBOC and it filters over to 880 AM and 890 AM. Stupid HD radio!  Angry
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Re: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2010, 12:05:56 PM »

I did get WLS back in September, as well as 550 KTZN Anchorage, AK.

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Re: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2010, 05:53:24 PM »

I did get WLS back in September, as well as 550 KTZN Anchorage, AK.

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I thought so.
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Re: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2010, 06:02:50 PM »

I certainly wouldn't forget if I picked up WLS

I spent a lot of time in your area during the late 70s and early to mid 80s (Vacaville, Fairfield, Palo Alto) and in those days WLS had a good listenable signal most of the time at night and would start to come in around sunset.

I even heard them in AM stereo out there when they first started using it.
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Re: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2010, 09:29:29 AM »

I certainly wouldn't forget if I picked up WLS

I spent a lot of time in your area during the late 70s and early to mid 80s (Vacaville, Fairfield, Palo Alto) and in those days WLS had a good listenable signal most of the time at night and would start to come in around sunset.

I even heard them in AM stereo out there when they first started using it.

But that was back before KDXU powered up on 890.  Now they own that frequency in the southwest.  Not to mention KLFF muddying the waters a bit along CA's central coast.   Granted, if I was able to dx night after night, perhaps I'd get lucky.  But so far, no luck on WLS west of the Continental Divide or so.   Came in fine though in Cheyenne and Casper, WY.   
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Re: GRAVEYARD DX (1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490)
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2010, 08:44:57 PM »

GarFla, about this time of year in 1968 I was doing the afternoon drive show on 56/WHBQ, Memphis.  I was reading a live commercial with my earphones on "air monitor" one afternoon when it was time to flip to our nighttime DA.  Imagine how less-than-powerful I felt as I suddenly heard a WQAM jingle in my earphones!
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