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Author Topic: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13  (Read 9503 times)
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Re: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
« Reply #60 on: December 15, 2010, 01:15:38 PM »

Notice how the initial replies to the blog announcement are about reception - static, "won't be able to listen anymore," etc.  I was wondering about this.  This is not a joyous event for many listeners.  It's really sad that Columbus is so under-radioed in good signals -- which of course is a big part of what gets me so frustrated about how 93.3's rare top-notch signal continues to be wasted on a poorly-performing, duplicative format after what..7 years...when there are major, highly-performing formats completely absent locally.
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Re: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
« Reply #61 on: December 15, 2010, 01:46:44 PM »


And speaking of which:
Also as a side note.. The web guys at CD101 @ 102.5 still got some work to do on their website.. There are still way to many 'refs' to 101.1 FM on their website.. including their web stream player that has no mention of 102.5 on it.

The sale contract requires them to stop using "101" and "101.1" now that the sale has closed, but I bet they will still use "CD101 @ 102.5" on the air as long as tOSU lets them get away with it.  Again, no real listener overlap worries due to the format.

The dust from the WWCD, WCVZ, and WOSU-FM transformations has not settled yet and besides, we still have the upcoming holidays. WOSA
at 101.1 FM is running at low power while that make adjustments and upgrades to their  transmitter site. Also, being that WOSA 101.1 had a soft
lunch yesterday, they may not be too concerned about WWCD continuing to use "101" and "101.1" at this time. They will probably ask them
to stop using it after the first of the year when they are ready to make an issue of this.

It looks like WWCD 102.5 doesn't want to let go of "101" if they can help it because they are afraid of annihilating their established listener base
from the last twenty years or so. CD'101' also seems to be inseparable from WWCD and it's established listener base. No wonder WWCD dose not
want to give it up.
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Re: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
« Reply #62 on: December 15, 2010, 01:53:23 PM »


It looks like WWCD 102.5 doesn't want to let go of "101" if they can help it because they are afraid of annihilating their established listener base
from the last twenty years or so. CD'101' also seems to be inseparable from WWCD and it's established listener base. No wonder WWCD dose not
want to give it up.


CD101 also rolls off the tongue better and lends itself to nicer graphics than CD102.5.  Still, I can't see it making much sense for them to hold onto that moniker much longer, even if OSU gives them a pass to do so.
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Re: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
« Reply #63 on: December 15, 2010, 02:01:18 PM »



WOSA
at 101.1 FM is running at low power while that make adjustments and upgrades to their  transmitter site. Also, being that WOSA 101.1 had a soft
lunch yesterday, they may not be too concerned about WWCD continuing to use "101" and "101.1" at this time.


They were loud and clear on 101.1 around 6:30am today as I drove east down Home Rd toward 315. The quiet nature of classical music will expose even the slightest static. They were even better than 102.5, which surprised me. When did the low power start?
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Re: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
« Reply #64 on: December 15, 2010, 03:02:14 PM »


They were loud and clear on 101.1 around 6:30am today as I drove east down Home Rd toward 315. The quiet nature of classical music will expose even the slightest static. They were even better than 102.5, which surprised me. When did the low power start?

They may be at Full Power now but I was told there is still some work to do at their transmitter site for the next few weeks.


CD101 also rolls off the tongue better and lends itself to nicer graphics than CD102.5.  Still, I can't see it making much sense for them to hold onto that moniker much longer, even if OSU gives them a pass to do so.

tOSU isn't going to allow that. Why would they allow it? Why would they want to be associated with WWCD, CD101 in any way shape or form? Huh


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Re: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
« Reply #65 on: December 15, 2010, 06:17:27 PM »


They may be at Full Power now but I was told there is still some work to do at their transmitter site for the next few weeks.

I give WOSU major props for the launch of this format. They did well .. I even enjoyed Boyce's comment about "having people in the studio for once and it wasn't someone else asking you for money" shows they know how to humor.   OSU's presentation of classical music has always been top notch in my opinion and unlike other public insts that seem to be shying away from it they are committed to the community and format! 

I thought the launch was great!

I would not be surprised if WOSU does not do major work to the 101.1 Physical plant.  I would think that the transmitter that WWCD was running is likely the org that they signed on with in the early 90s.

WOSU was one of the first pub casters to adopt both HDTV and IBOC (What people call HD Radio) so I would expect some upgrades to the plant.

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Re: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
« Reply #66 on: December 15, 2010, 06:26:46 PM »

Audio processing hasn't changed and they are still using CD101 like crazy in IDs and ads.

And their web site is still littered with mentions of CD101.1 FM! even .. including their web player.. for not wanting to rid of 101.1 they sure went off air sliently on sunday night.. not even a mention on air of good bye they went from song, to imager to a commerical break and during that commerical break they dropped to dead air and then to the recorded loop to move to 102.5.

Don't get me wrong, I like CD102.5's music however, there seems to be a disconnect within the ranks there to why they dropped the ball on some things like the website and so forth in terms of the frequency move which we knew was coming months ago.

My only fear is that with the changes they have made over the years that some of their loyal listeners seem pretty outspoken about on their facebook about that these little things they are kinda dropping the ball on might further create discomfort with their loyal fans.
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Re: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2010, 01:42:48 PM »


One problem. The call letters are still WCVZ... listed as such in the FCC database. BIG TIME FAIL.

I would not be surprised that it's just a case of the FCC online database lagging behind reality.  It's happened before.  For one, the Call Sign Query for WOSA is not attached to the former WWCD facility yet, and we know that moved over with the closing of the 101.1 sale.

I wonder if "CD101 @ 102.5" will EVER go away as branding?

I ask this because somewhere on their FB page, an engineer for the station says they are "not changing" their name. Maybe they got tOSU to ignore that provision in the sale agreement to dump 101/101.1 in the branding, arguing (as I've suggested here) that there's very little overlap between the two stations' audiences?  That's just a guess on my part.

If they do change to "CD102.5" at some point, maybe they are waiting until after the Andyman-a-thon.  I can see where they'd want to hang onto "CD101" for that reason.

As of today, The FCC database for WOSA now has the call sign WOSA attached to the former WWCD 101.1 facility.
Click here for this:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/call_hist.pl?Facility_id=28644&Callsign=WWCD

And the Dec 14 closing date of this sale is here:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/app_det.pl?Application_id=1379124

But, WCVZ may be using the 'WWCD' calls in error because they have yet to be assigned to the 102.5 facility. The FCC data doesn't even show them even applying for the WWCD call sign. Click for their current FCC calls: http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/call_hist.pl?Facility_id=61230&Callsign=WCVZ

As far as them "not changing" their name from "CD101 @ 102.5", I doubt tOSU will allow this after January 1, 2010. It's in the contact of sale and tOSU calls their new radio station on 101.1 Classical101 . There is a reason they defiantly want to keep the  number '101' all to themselves and tOSU has the attorneys to enforce the contact if they want to.

This is getting very interesting! Roll Eyes


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Re: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2010, 07:28:57 PM »

gabigley, they have indeed now applied for WWCD for the 102.5 frequency - they being, of course, 102.5's licensee, Southeastern Ohio Broadcasting System (WHIZ Media Group):

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A request for WWCD dated 12/16/2010 has been filed
by SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC..
Our records contain the following address(es) for above requester(s):
REQUESTED CALL SIGN   WWCD
LICENSEE/PERMITTEE   SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC.
MAILING ADDRESS   629 DOWNARD ROAD
CONTINUED ADDRESS   
CITY   ZANESVILLE   STATE   OH   ZIP   43701-

Go here:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/callsign/main.html

Click the "QUERY" button and put "WWCD" in, and it'll tell the story.

As noted several times, the FCC's online database could not yet reflect reality.  They could have gotten authorization to use WWCD already, but it's not online yet.  I doubt the FCC is going to care if they're using the calls a couple of days early.
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Re: CD101 to go exclusive on 102.5 FM on Monday Dec. 13
« Reply #69 on: December 17, 2010, 12:57:26 AM »

gabigley, they have indeed now applied for WWCD for the 102.5 frequency - they being, of course, 102.5's licensee, Southeastern Ohio Broadcasting System (WHIZ Media Group):

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A request for WWCD dated 12/16/2010 has been filed
by SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC..
Our records contain the following address(es) for above requester(s):
REQUESTED CALL SIGN   WWCD
LICENSEE/PERMITTEE   SOUTHEASTERN OHIO BROADCASTING SYSTEM, INC.
MAILING ADDRESS   629 DOWNARD ROAD
CONTINUED ADDRESS   
CITY   ZANESVILLE   STATE   OH   ZIP   43701-

Go here:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/callsign/main.html

Click the "QUERY" button and put "WWCD" in, and it'll tell the story.

As noted several times, the FCC's online database could not yet reflect reality.  They could have gotten authorization to use WWCD already, but it's not online yet.  I doubt the FCC is going to care if they're using the calls a couple of days early.

Given that the calls are now available, and this has been filed as a request, no the FCC probably WON'T care barring the request being denied. If it's denied (which I highly doubt will occur), then yes, the FCC will likely levy some sort of punishment on WHIZ Media. Again, I highly doubt the FCC will deny it, in fact as noted it may already be approved and that could be online today (Friday). But I expect no later than January 3, 102.5 will LEGALLY be WWCD.
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