WHIO-FM changes city of license

[greg.hahn]

Gotta love ole Mr. Roberts defending his employer. Again, Mr. Roberts didn't answer your question. I think the people of Piqua need to know they lost their station thanks in part to Cox.

I'm not sure which question didn't get answered. I thought they all did.

But I have a question for you, Wilson:

What, exactly, changes here for "the people of Piqua"?

[Jason Roberts]

Gotta love ole Mr. Roberts defending his employer. Again, Mr. Roberts didn't answer your question. I think the people of Piqua need to know they lost their station thanks in part to Cox. Corporate radios days are almost coming to an end, Mr. Roberts. Smell the coffee son:)

Wilson...with all due respects...can you read?

The tower is going nowhere.  The signal is going nowhere. Our service to Piqua is going nowhere. I've been at the Piqua studios before...I've rarely seen a member of the public in the building asking for WHIO.

The service is more important to the public than the semantics.  You are trying to gin up something which is just not there...

[Bob in Dayton]

Wilson...with all due respects...can you read?

The tower is going nowhere.  The signal is going nowhere. Our service to Piqua is going nowhere. I've been at the Piqua studios before...I've rarely seen a member of the public in the building asking for WHIO.

The service is more important to the public than the semantics.  You are trying to gin up something which is just not there...

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Jason Roberts (or whatever you call yourself today)...with all due respects...can you read?

Cox Broadcasting is taking care of itself.  It suddenly changes City of License to Pleasant Hill, a community it doesn't really care about nor will provide advertising revenue to Cox. Pleasant Hill has one thing going for it - it is within 25 miles of the Cox castle, and as the WHIO-FM City of License will save Cox some money by not requiring a Cox presence in Piqua.  And the timing of this move was pretty convenient.  WPTW-AM in Piqua is talking about pulling the plug.  If WHIO-FM didn't change its City of License in a hurry, it might be stuck with Piqua, rather than metropolitan Pleasant Hill.

All the smoke and hollering about "The service is more important to the public than the semantics".  WHIO's service to Miami County and urban Pleasant Hill will not change one iota.  This was 100% a decision to save money!

[zburns]

This is about saving money. Why would it not be and why is THAT bad?? Radio is a business.
If McDonald's moved to a new location but was required to keep a staffer at the old location in case the health department came in what sense would that make? Would McDonald's make a move to avoid this? You bet. ANY business would.
Tell me what did WHIO do for Piqua when they announced Piqua in the I.D. that they do or will not do now?
I personally think radio has to be financially responsible to itself in order to provide a good product to the listener. But whether or not the product is good is one's personal opinion. 

Did Clear Channel put country on am WIZE because they felt an obligation to serve Springfield/ Clark county or to gobble up as much of the 1-1.5 million of ad revenue that mainline left on the table by blowing up WKSW? Because where is the local talent? Did Clear Channel put high school sports on WIZE because they felt bad that the people of Springfield/Clark county no longer had this? Or, was it to gobble up the $100 k or so mainline left on the table?
Radio IS a business. Business is about profit, nothing else. Research the history of radio and see for yourself.

[Josh_Cols]

So heres a couple questions, excuse my ignorance but its been awhile since I've lived in the Dayton area. 

So WHIO-FM / COX up until now maintained a studio in Piqua, its former city of license?  I reckon the studio was maybe in the WPTW building and COX was leasing that space?

So if COX had studio space in the WPTW building and it was probably pretty much un-used.  Did COX in Dayton STL directly to the tower in Houston / Lockington or did they "relay" the programming thru their Piqua studio?

Whats this about WPTW possibly "pulling the plug"?

[mattsledge]

Radio IS a business. Business is about profit, nothing else.

100% correct.

[greg.hahn]

So heres a couple questions, excuse my ignorance but its been awhile since I've lived in the Dayton area. 

So WHIO-FM / COX up until now maintained a studio in Piqua, its former city of license?  I reckon the studio was maybe in the WPTW building?

Correct.

So if COX had studio space in the WPTW building and it was probably pretty much un-used.  Did COX in Dayton STL directly to the tower in Houston / Lockington or did they "relay" the programming thru their Piqua studio?

They had a T1 from their studio site to the tower site in Shelby County.

They also had an analog program loop from the studio site to the "Main Studio" in Piqua. And they had a 950 MHz STL from the main studio in Piqua to the tower site in Shelby County.

[Jason Roberts]

Wilson...with all due respects...can you read?

The tower is going nowhere.  The signal is going nowhere. Our service to Piqua is going nowhere. I've been at the Piqua studios before...I've rarely seen a member of the public in the building asking for WHIO.

The service is more important to the public than the semantics.  You are trying to gin up something which is just not there...

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Jason Roberts (or whatever you call yourself today)...with all due respects...can you read?

Cox Broadcasting is taking care of itself.  It suddenly changes City of License to Pleasant Hill, a community it doesn't really care about nor will provide advertising revenue to Cox. Pleasant Hill has one thing going for it - it is within 25 miles of the Cox castle, and as the WHIO-FM City of License will save Cox some money by not requiring a Cox presence in Piqua.  And the timing of this move was pretty convenient.  WPTW-AM in Piqua is talking about pulling the plug.  If WHIO-FM didn't change its City of License in a hurry, it might be stuck with Piqua, rather than metropolitan Pleasant Hill.

All the smoke and hollering about "The service is more important to the public than the semantics".  WHIO's service to Miami County and urban Pleasant Hill will not change one iota.  This was 100% a decision to save money!

Bob...I am going to offer my opinion one more time.

Keeping an employee in Piqua to sit in a office and twiddle his thumbs is a mighty inefficient use of money.  Greg Haun, one of our company engineers already explained on this thread that changing the COL allows the station to stay within the 25 mile rule and thus, not have to keep an office in Piqua.

We can use the money that paid for a Piqua office in other areas to allow us to offer a better on-air service, which will allow us to better serve the communities in the Miami Valley we cover which, of course, includes Miami County and Piqua.  In my way of thinking, this is far better in terms of public "interest, convenience and necessity" than having an office in Piqua where an employee does zip over infinity other than to wait for a possible, someday, FCC inspection.

Now, you can be as cynical as you want to be, I frankly don't care.  But, considering our company just gave Dayton (through its charitable foundation) a million dollars to help improve the riverfront downtown, it's kinda hard to suggest we're being really cheap here, and only "thinking of ourselves", by ending an inefficient use of company cash.

As for WPTW-AM, I hear they're looking for buyers, too.  I don't know more than that.  We'll have to see what happens...

We can agree to disagree if you want.  But I stand by my opinions.  And yes, Bob...they're mine.

[alans613]

"Bob", why do you care about Piqua so much when you're "In Dayton"?

[secondchoice]

IMHO the COL while a big issue with the FCC pre 80 90 and a few posters on this board is really a left over regulation from the pre 80 90 days.  The FCC allows COL changes.  There is no need for an office for public files, these can be in a  public library.  Most "control points" are not and should not be accessible to the public.  30 + years later, 80 90 has changed radio from entertainment and public service into just another business, which was it's goal.