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Author Topic: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark  (Read 25443 times)
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Re: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2012, 06:15:59 PM »

That sucks for someone to be able to hear FREE MUSIC on FM radio it'll be gone because there will be no place for hearing any type of music for free. Technology is great but when for example I"m camping I'm not going to bring my computer with me or even my smartphone i rarely bring if I do camp. I don't plug in my phone to listen to in the car it's dangerous as it is. If I want to listen to music I want to put on the FM dial on my portable radio and hear music not talk. It eliminates there even being a chance for music to ever be brought back to FM ever. if anything I hope that AM improves it's sound so at least music can return to AM and have a 770 Top 40 back on or a rock back on AM or a Hip Hop station on AM. to at least be fair. Or if programming a sports station make it sports and rock because that combination works well usually. Look at 107.1 The Bone in the Lehigh Valley.
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Re: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2012, 06:19:18 PM »

That sucks for someone to be able to hear FREE MUSIC on FM radio it'll be gone because there will be no place for hearing any type of music for free.

I don't think anyone expects all music to completely disappear from FM.  However, music on FM will be limited to formats that attract mass audiences.  And I don't expect any music to reappear on AM.
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Re: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2012, 06:59:54 PM »

That sucks for someone to be able to hear FREE MUSIC on FM radio it'll be gone because there will be no place for hearing any type of music for free.

I don't think anyone expects all music to completely disappear from FM.  However, music on FM will be limited to formats that attract mass audiences.  And I don't expect any music to reappear on AM.

And you'll still have all those stations below 92.1 mhz to cater to the more esoteric musical tastes. Plenty of college stations have punk and folk and classical and bluegrass shows. It's just the "not quite" mass appeal formats, like AAA, pre-1964 oldies and smooth jazz that will be increasingly unavailable on FM.
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Re: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2012, 07:29:45 PM »

In theory, the future of radio could/should be HD sub channels. It's ashame that hasn't taken off. If everyone had an HD radio and stations actually cared what they put on their sub channels there would actually be enough fm stations for most viable or even non viable formats. It would silence the whole AM/FM debate.
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Re: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2012, 08:37:37 PM »

I originally bought an HD radio to get the oldies on 101.1 HD2.  Now that station is a Jack clone called ToNY.  I wish WCBS-FM would create and 1954-63 oldies channel on HD.  I do enjoy smooth jazz(101.9-HD2) and country (106.7-HD2) which disappeared from HD1 years ago.

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Re: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2012, 08:50:15 PM »

With all this discussion about the issues dealing with moving the 94.7 stick to ESB, I thought I would post the links to the projected coverage areas of the stations involved:

WMAS: http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WMAS&service=FM&status=C&hours=U

WFME: http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WFME&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

I'm not a radio engineer nor sure about the accuracy of the reports but I think something can be worked out between the two if the new owner does decide to move the stick.

Anyway, as I would have expected, now that they're finally getting around to selling the station, like a hungry pack of wolves surrounding a famished lamb, there's a ton of interest in what is a rarity in NYC and that is a fulltime commercial signal, even one whose stick is in NJ, possibly going on the market. It should be needless to say but fulltime commercial stations in NYC are locked down. Over their dead bodies would the owners of the 92.3, 93.1, 93.9, 95.5, 96.3, 97.1, 97.9, 98.7, 99.5, 100.3, 101.1, 101.9, 102.7, 103.5, 104.3, 105.1, 105.9, 106.7 and 107.5 sticks would be willing to give them up, barring a financial need or other issues that force them to sell. Meanwhile, there are multiple groups of people with proclivities toward the following: 50/60s oldies, alternative rock, true dance, classic soul, country, etc., whose wants are not satisfied by the stations above. To complicate matters even further, four of the stations on the commercial dial: 93.9, 94.7, 99.5 and 105.9, are noncommercial stations. I don't think there's a market that has that condition elsewhere.

I predict that the demand for the 94.7 stick, even with its limitations, would be greater than we think. The patterns that we saw with the sales of WKDN and WFSI won't be the case here. We're talking a city of 8 million people, in an area of even millions more. The problem is money, of course. Not many are capable of paying what a true commerical signal would cost. But somebody will pay good money for it.
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Re: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2012, 10:15:46 PM »

Others thinking about putting spoken word on FM are going to look at WEMP's numbers and think it's not worth trying.

No, they're going to see how poorly Merlin executed and realize that the numbers don't mean anything.

I think New York and Chicago are going to be safe from this talk takeover of FM and I for one take comfort in that.

I wouldn't take too much comfort in it, because you're wrong.  Spoken word on FM isn't a fad, it's the whole new ballgame.

So what happened to Blink 102.7 and Free FM (which still had better numbers than WEMP) doesn't mean anything either? 
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Re: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2012, 10:20:37 PM »


So what happened to Blink 102.7 and Free FM (which still had better numbers than WEMP) doesn't mean anything either? 

Bringing up failed formats doesn't mean the concept was wrong.  Just that the execution was wrong.  And perhaps the timing was bad.
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Re: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2012, 10:21:40 PM »


So what happened to Blink 102.7 and Free FM (which still had better numbers than WEMP) doesn't mean anything either? 

Both were efforts to capture "the spirit of Howard" 24/7 for a demo that has no custom of using talk radio... 18-34. They didn't work, and certainly would not work in the PPM world.

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Re: Family Stations Will Sell 94.7FM WFME Newark
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2012, 10:23:02 PM »

94.7 can move, and should move, to Empire.

If you see the FCC's 54dbu contour of 94.7 as it is presently in West Orange
http://maps.google.com/?q=http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/contourplot.kml?gmap=2%26appid=1184871%26call=WFME%26freq=94.7%26contour=54%26city=NEWARK%26state=NJ
and compare it with WMAS in "Springfield"
http://maps.google.com/?q=http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/contourplot.kml?gmap=2%26appid=1455327%26call=WMAS-FM%26freq=94.7%26contour=54%26city=ENFIELD%26state=CT,
then take any given full Empire signal, in this case WPLJ,
http://maps.google.com/?q=http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/contourplot.kml?gmap=2%26appid=104015%26call=WPLJ%26freq=95.5%26contour=54%26city=NEW_YORK%26state=NY
you will see that in no way do either scenarios fall inside the protected contours of the other.

Radio-locator is a cute website, but go to the guys and gals signing off of the potential change.

As I've stated before and ""stationless listener" has eluded to, 94.7 is part of the "Holy Grail" of radio: starting with 88.3-107.5, at 800kc increments.

I sometimes have to wonder if there isn't an effort to minimize the importance of these frequency allocations. But then I think that, after all, this is just a discussion board.

Move it, then spin the format wheel.

Unless Pillar of Fire gets it. (yeah, I read non-comm to comm license, too - big deal. Buy the station, first.)

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