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Author Topic: KOY - The New Coyote  (Read 4885 times)
johndavis
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Re: From the "you've GOT to be kidding department...."
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 09:01:00 AM »

Instead of smooth jazz at night, I suggest KOY follow the lead of the venerable Lumberyard 1440 and shut 'er down at sunset.  At least Phoenix area DX'ers will have a shot at hearing what some out-of-market programming giant will have cooked up for his 1230 flamethrower.

Having killed the carrier once or twice on that 1230 transmitter myself, I can say with certainty that the only thing you'd hear on 1230 if it were to go off at dusk is the unintelligible sounds of at least 2 or 3 stations stepping on each other.

It's any wonder that you can get KOY after dark at all amid all of that mess, although having a 5/8th wave tower probably is a big help.

At one point in the 90's, Jorgy studied selling off the Buckeye property and diplexing 1230 off the 550 stick, but moving to 48th & Southern would have made the night signal so bad that it wouldn't cover enough of Phoenix to keep the city of license. It would have covered enough of Tempe to qualify changing the COL to that city, but ultimately it was decided it wasn't worth the effort. Ultimately, we gave the Phoenix Police keys to the building so beat cops could use the bathroom and write reports in the old KRIZ office.
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Re: KOY - The New Coyote
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2012, 10:58:01 AM »

Having killed the carrier once or twice on that 1230 transmitter myself, I can say with certainty that the only thing you'd hear on 1230 if it were to go off at dusk is the unintelligible sounds of at least 2 or 3 stations stepping on each other.

One of those stations being KXO out of El Centro, CA. KXO is a nice little station with an oldies format focused on the 60's. What I like the most about KXO, it has local programming with live DJ's spinning those golden oldies all day long. Wish we had something like that around here. If you ever drive between Phoenix and San Diego and are a fan of our beloved Lumberyard, give KXO a listen to. It's a pretty good station!

I'm actually surprised KXO didn't get more frequency protection on the 1230 frequency back in the day. The station's been around since 1927, but there are so many stations now operating in the region on 1230 AM that they all interfere with each other at night making each individual station extremely difficult to listen to within their respective listening area. The FCC must have had plans to garner the 1230 frequency a total graveyard because AM 1230 KPHO signed on way back when in 1941. So i guess this 1230 graveyard problem isn't anything new!
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Re: From the "you've GOT to be kidding department...."
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2012, 01:41:46 PM »


At one point in the 90's, Jorgy studied selling off the Buckeye property and diplexing 1230 off the 550 stick


The cost to move it probably would have been in excess of fair market value for that crack-hole on Buckeye (not to be confused with the crackpots' Media Hut in Buckeye)! And to think at one time KRIZ was Numero Uno in Phoenix with not 1kw at night, but 250 watts! If CC didn't need the dough, the best thing to do is donate the 12~Thirty frequency to some non-profit and be done with it.
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Re: KOY - The New Coyote
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2012, 01:49:36 PM »

The FCC must have had plans to garner the 1230 frequency a total graveyard because AM 1230 KPHO signed on way back when in 1941. So i guess this 1230 graveyard problem isn't anything new!

Actually, KPHO signed on in 1940 on 1200, before the NARBA shifts.
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Re: From the "you've GOT to be kidding department...."
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2012, 01:50:39 PM »

And to think at one time KRIZ was Numero Uno in Phoenix with not 1kw at night, but 250 watts!

But....but.....but.....Phoenix was a LOT smaller then.  And listeners were in their cars cruising Central and not hovering over their static-producing computers.
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Re: From the "you've GOT to be kidding department...."
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2012, 01:58:19 PM »

And to think at one time KRIZ was Numero Uno in Phoenix with not 1kw at night, but 250 watts!

But....but.....but.....Phoenix was a LOT smaller then.  And listeners were in their cars cruising Central and not hovering over their static-producing computers.

You could listen on the iHeartRadio app while cruising Central on the Light Rail and hovering over your iPad. Grin
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Re: From the "you've GOT to be kidding department...."
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2012, 03:47:43 PM »


You could listen on the iHeartRadio app while cruising Central on the Light Rail and hovering over your iPad. Grin


True...plus with IHeartRadio you can listen to 128 Clear Channel oldies station that all sound the same!  Wonder if the CC suits will strike a deal with Gumpdusky so we can hear Lumberyard 14~Forty world-wide?
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Re: From the "you've GOT to be kidding department...."
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2012, 06:24:39 PM »

F iHeartRadio.  All the good stations are on TuneIn
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Re: KOY - The New Coyote
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2012, 01:28:15 AM »

TuneIn beats iHeart. Much more variety.

BTW, SJ does work on AM. We have it over in Reno on 1400. Depends on how much interference there is.
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Re: KOY - The New Coyote
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2012, 12:10:30 PM »

What was the advantage when all the graveyard (old class IV) stations got to "pump up" the nighttime power to 1KW? It would seem the resulting  increased interference would garner them a net gain of 0 in added coverage.

That being said, 1230 has one of the best coverage areas of any station in its class.  I can hear it all the way to Anthem at night which isn't too shabby for 1kw.....

Back East, (Syracuse and Buffalo) I recall Class IVs making a whopping 7-8 miles at night. My "Mr. Microphone"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYEXBTlWf_4

can beat that.
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