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Author Topic: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs  (Read 3674 times)
taylorengineer
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Re: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2012, 03:31:47 PM »

The old site (100kW @ 432 meters side mounted antenna) had an average distance of about 52 miles from the tower to the 60db contour.

The new site (77kW @ 505 meters top mounted antenna) is an average of 56 miles. Both these were numbers consultants projected when the move idea was first hatched. 

The full 100kW might push the 60 out another 5 miles. 


But that does not take into account the "bounce" 106.7 engineered into the sidemounted antenna. That can gain easily 3-4 db and sometimes a little more. Talking about consultant's "circles" does not tell the whole story. 50/50 contour maps and pop counts are for the GM and GSM.....the tech guys know antenna performance and rf propagation are still very much "smoke and mirrors" because there are so many variables which are difficult, if not impossible, to predict.
Jambox is telling us there is secret Cumulus stuff brewing.....he may know some insider poop......and then again.....maybe not.
But my guess is there is something more to this story. Widows son does make a point about getting agreements to move other stations out of the way. Maybe the "secret stuff" going on will be even better at 100,000 watts.
But then......isn't everything better at 100,000 watts??!!
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Re: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2012, 09:30:58 PM »

Why then are they making "Contingent Applications Agreement" with WOKA?
If I read the app and exhibits correctly, they needed WOKA to move so they could up their power without interfering with them so they could city-grade all of Sandy Springs. 
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Re: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2012, 11:38:04 AM »

Uh oh, somebody's beginning to put it together on the list. Cheesy
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Re: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2012, 11:49:30 AM »

FYI
Ownership limits in ATL are 8 stations, 5 is the most in either service.  Cumulus's "Translators" do not count.
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Re: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2012, 12:08:41 PM »

Sandy Springs is already in the 70 dbu circle at present facilities 77 Kw @ 505 meters.
This WOKA agreement is because of 73.215 rules. You can't move city of license without this agreement.
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Re: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2012, 09:33:48 PM »

This WOKA agreement is because of 73.215 rules. You can't move city of license without this agreement.

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Re: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2012, 09:37:25 PM »

FYI
Ownership limits in ATL are 8 stations, 5 is the most in either service.  Cumulus's "Translators" do not count.
Cumulus + Dickey + LFM would be 9 stations--5 FMs (94.1, 99.7, 100.5, 101.5, 106.7) and 4 AMs (680, 790, 1230, 1340).  One would have to go.  My choice would be to dump 1340 unless I got good money for 100.5.

CBS could give Cumulus a fit by getting into a bidding war.
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Re: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs
« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2012, 03:55:17 AM »

3) Heck, speaking of WDUN AM/FM and WGGA, is Cumulus buying Jacobs?  What is the ownership limit in Gainesville?   Would moving WYAY "out" of Gainesville help with that? 



Maybe it's just me, but I gotta tell ya, I'd be really surprised if Jay had any interest in selling the family farm... really surprised...
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Re: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs
« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2012, 08:45:02 AM »

Maybe it's just me, but I gotta tell ya, I'd be really surprised if Jay had any interest in selling the family farm... really surprised...

ditto.
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Re: WYAY files application to move to Sandy Springs
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2012, 11:51:15 AM »

Jabba17

Dickey Broadcasting and Cumulus Media are two completely seperate licesnees as well as companies.  Even though they share board memebers, the FCC and SEC treats them as two completely seperate entities, so the ownership rules do not apply as a combined entity.  Dickey broadcasting can have 8 stations as well as Cumulus Media.
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