8200 vs. DSP-X products

[awsherrill]

> And don't forget being 15 years old the 8200 could have or
> be getting ready to have bad electrolytic capacitors....
>

There is a switching(?) supply in the 8200 that is known to go bad.  In some cases the 8200 gets unplugged and won't come back on when plugged in again.  Fortunately, replacement supplies are readily available from more than one source (not just Orban) and are not terribly expensive.

[westlife]

> There is a switching(?) supply in the 8200 that is known to
> go bad.  In some cases the 8200 gets unplugged and won't
> come back on when plugged in again.  Fortunately,
> replacement supplies are readily available from more than
> one source (not just Orban) and are not terribly expensive.
 
I'm not sure if it was the 8200 or some other model, but that's exactly what happened to "New Jersey 101.5" (WKXW-FM Trenton, NJ) a few years ago.  They took their Optimod down for maintenance and it never came back up, due to a dead power supply.

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"This is the New York Emergency Broadcast System satellite channel.  They took the crosstown bus."

[dspxscott]

> As far as the DSP-X boxes. I haven't had the opportunity to
> hear
> one in action yet.
> They may be great boxes, but it seems that there are two or
> three
> of the same guys cheerleading them on all the lists.
> Their enthusiasm makes me wonder if they actually BOUGHT
> them or have them GRATIS from the company. This may sometime
> alter the perspective.


You raise a valid point and it is not something that BW influences or has any control of. All processors manufacturers have their fans and we have a few here. We don't give away product but like ALL processor manufacturers we do deals here and there.
Compared to Orban and Omnia BW have a very small customer base (at the moment) but the ones we do have are to the best of our knowledge very happy with their purchase. They know they couldn't have bought a better box for the money.
Remember that BW will give you 100% money back for up to 3 months after purchase should you change your mind. Now that is standing behind a product! You can't do that unless you know that the customer will be happy with it.
We look forward to proving to you that any threads from satisfied customers are just that!
Contact us nearer the time to see if we can offer you any factory direct deals. Either that or contact your preferred equipment supplier and pester them for a demo.
Best regards
Scott

[dspxscott]

>  
> BTW, is there any hope for the long-awaited AM version of
> the DSP-X?  Orban will be releasing their new Optimod-AM
> 9400 in January 2006... it would be nice if you had
> something with similar capabilities (hopefully including
> full matrix processing for C-Quam AM Stereo, which the 9400
> unfortunately does not) at a more affordable price -- i.e.
> at or below the cost of the entry-level CRL Amigo AM.
>

Here is the schedule.
We are currently working on bringing the DSPXmini from beta to V1 and this should be about a week or so.
We are then going to revise the DSPX to V3 software.
At that point the DSPX website will be updated and new downloads, remote control apps, manuals and everything else will be uploaded. This should all be done before Xmas.
First thing in the new year we are going to start beta testing some AM versions. We are not 100% yet on which of the FM models to allow AM software. It will probably be the X and the Xtra but the mini is also a possibilty as we could feed the AM signal from the composite output.
Your comments on what you think the AM market wants is helpful.
Expect betas for NAB time.
The first release of the AM software will not have C-Quam but we will look into the issue and if its not to difficult we will implement a software update shortly afterwards.

Best regards
Scott

[Goran Tomas]

> Either way, if I was in a small market and could pick up an
> 8200
> for let's say 1K to 1.5K that's the way I would go.

Orban 8100A goes on eBay from 1.2K to 1.8K, so I doubt you'll be able to get 8200 that cheap...


Regards,
Goran Tomas

[HOMEYD]

> > As far as the DSP-X boxes. I haven't had the opportunity
> to
> > hear
> > one in action yet.
> > They may be great boxes, but it seems that there are two
> or
> > three
> > of the same guys cheerleading them on all the lists.
> > Their enthusiasm makes me wonder if they actually BOUGHT
> > them or have them GRATIS from the company. This may
> sometime
> > alter the perspective.
>
>
> You raise a valid point and it is not something that BW
> influences or has any control of. All processors
> manufacturers have their fans and we have a few here. We
> don't give away product but like ALL processor manufacturers
> we do deals here and there.
> Compared to Orban and Omnia BW have a very small customer
> base (at the moment) but the ones we do have are to the best
> of our knowledge very happy with their purchase. They know
> they couldn't have bought a better box for the money.
> Remember that BW will give you 100% money back for up to 3
> months after purchase should you change your mind. Now that
> is standing behind a product! You can't do that unless you
> know that the customer will be happy with it.
> We look forward to proving to you that any threads from
> satisfied customers are just that!
> Contact us nearer the time to see if we can offer you any
> factory direct deals. Either that or contact your preferred
> equipment supplier and pester them for a demo.
> Best regards
> Scott
>

Very well. When I get ready to make my next processor purchase
I will try to arrange for an appropriate DSP-X model for comparison.

[Goran Tomas]

> We are then going to revise the DSPX to V3 software.
> At that point the DSPX website will be updated and new
> downloads, remote control apps, manuals and everything else
> will be uploaded. This should all be done before Xmas.

Great! Been wating for that. There's nothing better than a new upgrade for your processor ;-)


Regards,
Goran Tomas

[Goran Tomas]

> What I haven't seen yet is anyone advising you to try them
> all!  You can get 15 day "demos" of all those boxes, so you
> can hear them first hand.  Processing is so

Maybe I haven't said so here explicitly, but I'm always recommending to get your hands on as many processors as you can (that fit your budget) and make a direct comparison, preferably on-air on your station!

IMO, this is the only way you can be sure you've bought the best box for your station.

Recommendations are always subjective and often biased, not to mention they come form different "environments" (program on one side and transmission equipment on the other).


Regards,
Goran Tomas

[RadioActive05]

Just my two cents.

We are a small NCE and just upgraded our air chain with an Omnia.03T and are using a compellor in liu of the WB AGC.

At first out of the box I thought the sound was a bit harsh, a quick call to Omnia Tech support and a few minor adjustments cleared up any doubt that we made the correct processing choice.

Over the past two months we have received tons of compliments on our sound. A CE at a local full power FM emailed me and thought we were using an Omnia.06.

Our sound is open, musical and competitive.

We were extremely impressed with the quick response from Omnia Tech Support, for just under 3K for the 03Turbo you can’t go wrong..

[1290wgli]

> > This should all be done before Xmas.

It'll be a DSP-X mas!