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Re: Single Sideband Suppressed Carrier (SSBSC) Video Demonstration
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2012, 10:45:41 AM »

Frank F,

Have you seen any studies or do you have any thoughts on the subject of how the use of SSBSC stereo effects stereo reception in areas of overlap for on channel boosters? Would the self-inflected multipath-like effects be reduced?

- Bill Putney - KPTZ Port Townsend, WA
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Re: Single Sideband Suppressed Carrier (SSBSC) Video Demonstration
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2012, 11:32:10 AM »

While we're firing questions at Frank and/or Leif, has research been done on SSB where an adjacent channel station fires up IBOC? The IBOC in question was there and trashed the station in it's pre SSB days and the IBOC was later shut off (that was heavenly--with SSB and no IBOC interference it acted more like the old days when FM stayed pretty clear until it fell off the cliff). When the IBOC came back, the SSB was on and at least on that 1 trip into the interference zone, it did not appear that the damage inflicted by the IBOC station was as bad as before.
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Re: Single Sideband Suppressed Carrier (SSBSC) Video Demonstration
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2012, 12:24:01 PM »

I guess Frank has been talking to receiver manufacturers to see what interest there might be in a SSB decoder mode. Hypothetically this mode would narrow the filters ahead of the L-R demod. It seems likely that an improvement in adjacent channel IBOC induced noise would be another benefit. This wouldn't help the legacy receivers. But... most people keep their cars 5-10 years and in that time we could see advanced decoders take over a majority of the car radios.

I see a lot of concern about those early non-PLL receivers. I wonder how many of those there really are out there. The time between the wide consumer acceptance of FM Stereo and the end of non-PLL receiver production was very brief.

I'm old enough to remember the time right after the stereo wars where resolved by the FCC. Most of the stereo "decoders" were separate boxes that plugged into a special composite jack on the back of Hi-Fi receivers (the jacks were put there by manufacturers that didn't know which side the FCC was going to come down on). Most cars had AM radios and if you worked at an FM station like I did then, you had a Motorola FM receiver that went in the antenna line of your car radio to re-modulate the FM station onto the AM band. Certainly nothing stereo in cars then. I use to amaze my friends by driving through a tunnel and not have the radio fade out. Smiley

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Re: Single Sideband Suppressed Carrier (SSBSC) Video Demonstration
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2012, 09:21:08 PM »

Frank F,

Have you seen any studies or do you have any thoughts on the subject of how the use of SSBSC stereo effects stereo reception in areas of overlap for on channel boosters? Would the self-inflected multipath-like effects be reduced?

- Bill Putney - KPTZ Port Townsend, WA

Bill,

To date, I have not seen any studies regarding your question. It's possible we'll get some data about this as our work is about to begin with the Task Group of the AFAB subcommittee of the NRSC.

-Frank Foti
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Re: Single Sideband Suppressed Carrier (SSBSC) Video Demonstration
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2012, 08:22:12 PM »

HHH , will CBS expirement with SSBSC IN bOSTON?
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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2012, 01:56:10 PM »

HHH , will CBS expirement with SSBSC IN bOSTON?

Most likely.
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Re: Single Sideband Suppressed Carrier (SSBSC) Video Demonstration
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2012, 05:30:49 PM »

Optimod-FM 5500 has just received a software upgrade (V 1.2.0) that enables CSSB operation in both the 5500's audio processor+stereo generator and stand-alone stereo generator modes. It's a free download at ftp.orban.com.

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Re: Single Sideband Suppressed Carrier (SSBSC) Video Demonstration
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2012, 06:05:37 PM »

Optimod-FM 5500 has just received a software upgrade (V 1.2.0) that enables CSSB operation in both the 5500's audio processor+stereo generator and stand-alone stereo generator modes. It's a free download at ftp.orban.com.

Bob Orban

Bob,

Any chance the 8300 gets the SSB mode? 
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Re: Single Sideband Suppressed Carrier (SSBSC) Video Demonstration
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2012, 06:08:46 PM »

That's a huge upgrade for the 5500.It's mid-priced and a great value.Hope it comes to the 8300.
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Re: Single Sideband Suppressed Carrier (SSBSC) Video Demonstration
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2012, 03:29:12 AM »

bob,

what about the 2300? Does this unit gets the upgrade as well?


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