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Author Topic: Station Owners: Limbaugh Crossed the Boundary  (Read 4272 times)
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Re: Station Owners: Limbaugh Crossed the Boundary
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2012, 05:36:06 PM »

What do you expect from a guy who is on his fourth marriage and has no children? You can bet if He had a daughter the same age as Ms. Fluke, He would have bitten his tongue before saying the things he said. I'm sure most of Limbaugh's female audience would agree with his comments.
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Re: Station Owners: Limbaugh Crossed the Boundary
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2012, 07:45:21 PM »

You're buying in to the theory that advertising on Rush after this controversy blew up was actually bad for business.
There is no way to know that since it had been literally a matter of days before these advertisers bailed out on his show.
Hence my comment that they should have taken a "wait-and-see" attitude.  Just because a few thousand people blitz you from facebook and twitter it does not necessarily mean that your sales will fall. 

Now that these companies have bought into that, you can bet that other groups with other axes to grind will try to force these companies to do other things using the same means.  Meanwhile, these companies will not get their message to a large audience and that same audience will also be told by the host they like (and in some case follow) to not buy from them in the future.

It's just incredibly foolish.

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« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2012, 08:33:37 PM »

All those PSAs WABC is running, instead of commercials, in Limbaugh?
Minus one...which asked to be taken out:
http://hollandcookemedia.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/rush-limbaughs-imus-moment/
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Re: Station Owners: Limbaugh Crossed the Boundary
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2012, 09:14:25 PM »

What stations have announced that they are dropping the show?

"Which" stations.

ADVERTISER cancellations was LAST week's headline (though likely to continue); THIS week, AFFILIATE cancellations would accelerate the tailspin.

Watch Cumulus, whose soon-to-debut Huckabee show goes head-2-head and will throw A PILE of do-re-mi to The Bottom Line.  And losing Cumulus sticks like WABC, WMAL, WLS, WJR, WBAP, et al would sting.

There's blood in the water.
Those big Cumulus AM's are probably paying the bulk of Limbaugh's $50 million a year salary...and Rush is employed by a COMPETITOR.
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« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2012, 10:55:33 PM »

What stations have announced that they are dropping the show?

"Which" stations.

ADVERTISER cancellations was LAST week's headline (though likely to continue); THIS week, AFFILIATE cancellations would accelerate the tailspin.

Watch Cumulus, whose soon-to-debut Huckabee show goes head-2-head and will throw A PILE of do-re-mi to The Bottom Line.  And losing Cumulus sticks like WABC, WMAL, WLS, WJR, WBAP, et al would sting.

There's blood in the water.
Those big Cumulus AM's are probably paying the bulk of Limbaugh's $50 million a year salary...and Rush is employed by a COMPETITOR.

Yes, and Cumulus isn't going to be in a big hurry to dump Rush regardless.  He's likely the highest-rated thing on each of those stations.
Getting rid of Rush would only created a huge ratings problem for all those stations.  Revenue is obviously important, but a lot of that local advertising isn't going to stay away forever.  It will come back.
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Re: Station Owners: Limbaugh Crossed the Boundary
« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2012, 12:14:21 AM »


You're buying in to the theory that advertising on Rush after this controversy blew up was actually bad for business.
There is no way to know that since it had been literally a matter of days before these advertisers bailed out on his show.
Hence my comment that they should have taken a "wait-and-see" attitude.  Just because a few thousand people blitz you from facebook and twitter it does not necessarily mean that your sales will fall. 


I'm sure this conversation has been played over and over again at many companies that advertise on Rush's show or have some other connection.  What comes to my mind at this point is the old line:  "You never get a second chance to make a first impression."

Here is the management group conversation at many companies:  PRO:  "If we don't pull out of our Rush schedule,  we look like co-conspiritors with many of our customers and prospects."  CON:  "If we pull out took quaickly and it turns out not to be necessary for the long term,  we look like enemies of Conservatism to many of our customers and prospects.  Let's sit tight.  We can pull out later if this doesn't calm down."  PRO:  "You never get a second chance to make a first impression.  If we hang in there and it turns out that we should get out,  we have lost our chance to convince people we understand right from wrong." 

Just because people bltzed from Facebook and Twitter does not necessarily mean that as they move on with their life they are going to forget how angry they are with Rush, and how angry they are with the advertisers who make it possible for Rush to continue. 

No matter which side we are on, no matter what we hope will happen,  we are ALL "going to school" with Rush.  Whatever he learns, we will learn also.  Either way it goes.

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« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2012, 12:34:33 PM »

From the Daily Beast:

Premiere Networks, which distributes Limbaugh as well as a host of other right-wing talkers, sent an email out to its affiliates early Friday listing 98 large corporations that have requested their ads appear only on “programs free of content that you know are deemed to be offensive or controversial (for example, Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Leykis, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity).”

Looks like the Rush toxicity is spreading, and stations carrying hate-talk programs can
do so as "loss leaders" just to keep their ratings. 
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Re: Station Owners: Limbaugh Crossed the Boundary
« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2012, 12:36:32 PM »

So if all conservative talk is "hate talk" does that make all liberal talk "love talk"?
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« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2012, 01:56:52 PM »

From the Daily Beast:

Premiere Networks, which distributes Limbaugh as well as a host of other right-wing talkers, sent an email out to its affiliates early Friday listing 98 large corporations that have requested their ads appear only on “programs free of content that you know are deemed to be offensive or controversial (for example, Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Leykis, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity).”

Looks like the Rush toxicity is spreading, and stations carrying hate-talk programs can
do so as "loss leaders" just to keep their ratings. 

Remember the blacklist of advertisers for Air America?
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Apology, Part Deux...
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2012, 02:09:45 PM »

...this time, to his stations:

http://marketing.premiereradio.com/premiere_radio_marketing_dept/embedded_emails/Rush_Msg_0312/audio/RushAffilate_msg.wma
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