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Author Topic: Smerconish To Unseat Limbaugh On WPHT?  (Read 6550 times)
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Re: Smerconish To Unseat Limbaugh On WPHT?
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2012, 12:13:32 AM »

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"A very hot rumor out of Philadelphia has WYD Media-produced Michael Smerconish’s nationally syndicated program airing live 12:00 noon to 3:00 pm on CBS Radio’s news/talk WPHT– where Premiere Networks’ Rush Limbaugh does right now.  Smerconish is currently delayed to PM drive on WPHT..."
1.) This whole thread has not been one of the more accurate on the boards. I think because it started out on the wrong foot. Smerconish is not unseating anybody. Premier moved the seat to another part of the bus. Smerconish is sitting down into a soon to be vacant chair.

2.) How can you guys be objective about this since most of you have admitted you don't like Rush to begin with? If you are going to be taken seriously in radio, you are going to have to look at this from the studio side of the mike. It ain't yo mama's radio. You are trying to get an audience. It also ain't yo iPod. It is why the license is to serve the public interest. As long as Rush continues to do that, and Michael Smerconish, they will both have jobs and the stations will have licenses.

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Re: Smerconish To Unseat Limbaugh On WPHT?
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2012, 05:56:08 AM »

Smerconish is not "local".  Sure, he's from Philly, but the content of his show is national...

Yet CBS issues a press release touting an "all-local" lineup coming soon... Who are they kidding?
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Re: Smerconish To Unseat Limbaugh On WPHT?
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2012, 08:20:37 AM »

I didn't mean to refer to signal strength.  Sorry. 
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Re: Smerconish To Unseat Limbaugh On WPHT?
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2012, 08:36:57 AM »

Smerconish is not "local".  Sure, he's from Philly, but the content of his show is national...

Yet CBS issues a press release touting an "all-local" lineup coming soon... Who are they kidding?

no one, because on one outside this tiny community cares about the down-in-the-weeds details.
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« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2012, 11:58:22 PM »

This whole thread has not been one of the more accurate on the boards. I think because it started out on the wrong foot. Smerconish is not unseating anybody. Premier moved the seat to another part of the bus. Smerconish is sitting down into a soon to be vacant chair.

Exactly. That's what I was trying to say earlier in this thread.

Premiere dropped PHT as payback for PHT not renewing Beck and Hannity. Premiere's moving Limbaugh to a station that's willing to take several Premiere products means that PHT likely lost a bet that there was no place else for Premiere to put Limbaugh. Frankly, I'm surprised it took Premiere this long. PHT will now run Smerconish's syndicated talk show live in one of the lesser listened to time slots, and opposite Limbaugh. The listeners PHT retains after a new station debuts with Limbaugh and the pick of the Premiere talk litter, will at least presumably have a live PM drive show instead of canned Smerconish.

But this whole 'local' thing is just imaging - the 'local' hosts talk about the same national topics as the top syndicated hosts - just not as skillfully. They'll try to get the local Philly take on these issues, but really, who cares what a schlub in Philly is saying to Giordano vs what someone in Arizona is saying to Beck or Hannity? The Premiere station should clean up. For local events, people tune to KYW, not 1210.

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How can you guys be objective about this since most of you have admitted you don't like Rush to begin with? If you are going to be taken seriously in radio, you are going to have to look at this from the studio side of the mike. It ain't yo mama's radio.
Right, and not just on this board. Look at all the hopeful 'Rush is toast' articles from the trades a month back to identify the partisan hacks vs the real radio commentators. Was there ever any serious doubt that this was anything more than manufactured outrage from bitter partisans? And the pieces about how Huckabee will somehow be a threat to Limbaugh, and how Cumulus stations will replace Limbaugh to save money. Lose money, maybe. All based on wishful thinking. Once you have a baseline on an issue we're familiar with as radio industry followers, you start to wonder how much of the other stuff we read is fabricated crap.

The only serious criticism I've seen is that talk radio's demos are old and not getting younger. This is largely true, and moving the same hosts over to FM won't in itself solve that problem. Also, Limbaugh won't be around forever, though I doubt he'll hang up the mic until his health fails or he simply expires. But with the world getting more partisan and the 'mainstream' press increasingly perceived as liberal, there will continue to be a market for conservative talk radio, and there are several younger hosts waiting in the wings of local and satellite radio to fill the pipeline.

Finally, will WIOQ object to the WWIQ calls? Talk to WBEN-FM, which somehow got those calls with permission from WBEN(AM) and WPEN.
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Re: Smerconish To Unseat Limbaugh On WPHT?
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2012, 12:33:58 AM »

The 'dopey' NYT?Huh

Spot on!
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Re: Smerconish To Unseat Limbaugh On WPHT?
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2012, 04:20:59 AM »

Getting "permission" from WPEN wouldn't have been all that difficult, seeing as how it's a sister station.

But, really, what possible confusion would there be between a hit music station appealing to you ger people and a right Wii g talker appealing to those out casket shopping?   Smiley
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« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2012, 05:36:08 AM »

Premiere dropped PHT as payback for PHT not renewing Beck and Hannity...

This is kinda like a reverse WDEL situation in nearby Wilmington, after WDEL refused to be forcefed Mark Levin from ABC, and chose to drop Sean Hannity... Of course, Hannity is now Premiere product.
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Re: Smerconish To Unseat Limbaugh On WPHT?
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2012, 07:02:01 AM »

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with the world getting more partisan and the 'mainstream' press increasingly perceived as liberal, there will continue to be a market for conservative talk radio,

That "perception" that the "mainstream press" is being increasingly more liberal is mostly held by folks who spend a lot of time listening, and believing, what they hear on increasingly extreme partisan talk radio, and from partisan cable TV talking heads.

If you spend your life listening to echoes in a tunnel, you lose perspective on what the entire outside world sounds like.

And, if you keep turning your head farther to the right, even things in the true center start to appear far left to you.

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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2012, 12:09:12 PM »

Getting "permission" from WPEN wouldn't have been all that difficult, seeing as how it's a sister station.
Ah, true. Forgot about the ownership. Can't hardly keep track anymore.

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But, really, what possible confusion would there be between a hit music station appealing to younger people and a right wing talker?


Talker today, hot AC tomorrow, sports talker the next day. I guess CC could put a format clause in the call letter permission.


Premiere dropped PHT as payback for PHT not renewing Beck and Hannity...

This is kinda like a reverse WDEL situation in nearby Wilmington, after WDEL refused to be force-fed Mark Levin from ABC, and chose to drop Sean Hannity... Of course, Hannity is now Premiere product.
It'll be interesting to see how price-conscious Cumulus treats Levin, now their star product. If they try being stingy, I could see Levin following his buddy Hannity over to Premiere which likely would be glad to have him. Cumulus has already lost former WMAL Washington morning host Mary-Katherine Ham reportedly because they tried to get her to host a syndicated show without a producer or prep time before the show launched.


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with the world getting more partisan and the 'mainstream' press increasingly perceived as liberal, there will continue to be a market for conservative talk radio,

That "perception" that the "mainstream press" is being increasingly more liberal is mostly held by folks who spend a lot of time listening, and believing, what they hear on increasingly extreme partisan talk radio, and from partisan cable TV talking heads.

It's kind of a Catch-22. Media consumers choose news and issues sources based on content that matches their sensibilities, that makes sense to them. The media sources (mainstream press included) hone in on their target audiences. New entries, like Fox News and the modern day MSNBC, chose to serve certain positions on the ideological scale through their commentary shows based on complaints from viewers that their political sensibilities weren't being addressed. Both significantly increased their audiences as a result. CNN, which insists it's right down the middle (according to someone's idea of the middle) is taking a bath ratings wise because by assuming, incorrectly, that they know where the center is, they end up serving no one well.

Talk radio has done the same, discovering that conservative talk radio resonates with a sizable audience. The questions are how to sell an older audience to advertisers (which is starting to happen) and how to build shows that appeal to a younger radio/internet audience.

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If you spend your life listening to echoes in a tunnel, you lose perspective on what the entire outside world sounds like.

And, if you keep turning your head farther to the right, even things in the true center start to appear far left to you.
Most find a place on the political spectrum where they're comfortable, where things make sense. With some ideological views nearly 360 degrees in opposition to others, much of "the outside world" can sound like indecipherable gibberish. The problem comes when people believe that there are no overlap or compromise positions worthy of consideration. We've seen this in Congress and at the voting booths over the past 6 years. Maybe that's a position for CNN to stake out: more moderate arguments from both sides of the spectrum. The danger remains in where you draw the center line.

Some think the President is too far left, too far right or a moderate. You have to go to very different sources to see these views expressed, and they are all apparently genuine. From our positions on the ideological spectrum, it's usually difficult if not impossible to identify with all of those views.

Talk radio and other partisan media are simply reacting to that reality to attract dedicated audiences. And it works.
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