CBS SELLS W.P.B. CLUSTER

[northwoods]

I wonder what'll happen with CBS's HD2's & 3's.

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I was curious about the same thing, particularly "The Sound Of The Strip" HD-2 station, even though they have a similar HD-2 station in Dallas, which both of them stream live.

[Kent]

Interesting.  They plan to sell the two highest rated stations.  Hmmm.     I guess he can get the most money for them?  Personally, I would have kept WEAT and then worked to try to slowly separate the two formats of WEAT and WRMF and hold onto the top ratings.

I listened to RadioInk's interview with Goodman, and he outright states that he'll do some "format moving around" if he ends up selling WEAT and WHFS, which is his current plan, and that's acceptable to regulatory authorities.

[ScottBurns]

Even if the Sunny format stays on another signal, why would he abandon the powerhouse 104.3 signal?

[nfladxer]

Even if the Sunny format stays on another signal, why would he abandon the powerhouse 104.3 signal?

Yes, I'm surprised by that as well.  But, an article in Radio Ink is speculating that Goodman and company might want to sell off 104.3 as a Miami-Ft. Lauderdale signal, making it considerably more valuable.  Being this far south in the state, and the country, there might be enough "wiggle" room to make that happen, especially since they already put a huge signal into market #12.   The key would be to re-license the signal to a city south of Boca, and get FCC approval to move the transmitter to one of the Hollywood area antennas, although they would most likely lose that massive full class C signal with that move. 

[ScottBurns]

Sunny's signal is very good in many parts of Broward, but it is not great in equally as many parts of Miami-Dade.  Would there be limitations to moving to one of the sticks in Broward?  For example, would Power 104.5 in Nassau limit such a move?

[cd637299]

Sunny's signal is very good in many parts of Broward, but it is not great in equally as many parts of Miami-Dade.  Would there be limitations to moving to one of the sticks in Broward?  For example, would Power 104.5 in Nassau limit such a move?

I was going to write a longer post, but it's too confusing.  Suffice to say that Bahamas FM stations, whether in Nassau or Freeport, which are generally 5 kW power) don't even have a say in it; some are adjacent channel, and a few are even co-channel.

The pirate(s?) I hear in Broward/Dade on 104.5 might raise a stink, but they know better....

BTW, I am sure that 104.5 Nassau is no longer Power, but rather a relay of AM 1540, according to www.znsbahamas.com

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[FLjack2]

... an article in Radio Ink is speculating that Goodman and company might want to sell off 104.3 as a Miami-Ft. Lauderdale signal, making it considerably more valuable.  Being this far south in the state, and the country, there might be enough "wiggle" room to make that happen, especially since they already put a huge signal into market #12.   The key would be to re-license the signal to a city south of Boca, and get FCC approval to move the transmitter to one of the Hollywood area antennas, although they would most likely lose that massive full class C signal with that move. 

I don't think you need a big 100kw signal in Miami to make the station work -- as long as the antenna can be located somewhere along the border of Dade and Broward Counties.  So, if they have to downgrade to move it into the market, it's worth it.  Goodman probably will sell the license for a hefty price and let the new owner deal with all the crap.  He can move "Sunny" to another signal and keep the calls and format.  If that's the case, smart move.

[Kent]

I don't think you need a big 100kw signal in Miami to make the station work -- as long as the antenna can be located somewhere along the border of Dade and Broward Counties.  So, if they have to downgrade to move it into the market, it's worth it.  Goodman probably will sell the license for a hefty price and let the new owner deal with all the crap.  He can move "Sunny" to another signal and keep the calls and format.  If that's the case, smart move.

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up spinning it with a clause in the contract requiring a hefty balloon payment if the station is moved into Miami.  While I won't claim to be an engineer, it looks, on paper, like you could just pick 104.3 up and move it straight to the main Miami antenna farm.  The only potential issue would be adjacent channel WWUS almost out in Key West.  104.3 has no second or third adjacent channels in Miami to worry about. 

[nfladxer]

I don't think you need a big 100kw signal in Miami to make the station work -- as long as the antenna can be located somewhere along the border of Dade and Broward Counties.  So, if they have to downgrade to move it into the market, it's worth it.  Goodman probably will sell the license for a hefty price and let the new owner deal with all the crap.  He can move "Sunny" to another signal and keep the calls and format.  If that's the case, smart move.

Correct, with the right antenna location you wouldn't necessarily need 100kw for full market coverage. However, if such a move south to the Broward/Miami-Dade antenna farm is applied for and approved, and there are no short-spacing issues, 104.3 could still be 100kw.  The limitation is this: Currently the WEAT-FM antenna is about 1273 feet above average terrain, and since the Miami antennas are limited to about 1007 ft., the signal would probably be downgraded to a C0 or C1.  If this scenario plays out, and such a move is permitted, the new 104.3 would easily cover ALL of Broward and Miami-Dade, and most of Southern Palm Beach County.  Also note that most of the major Miami-Fort Lauderdale FM signals are slightly directional North and South from the antennas, concentrating most of their power over the heavily populated areas of South Florida, and away from the Everglades and the Ocean.     

[RadioGuy2004]

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up spinning it with a clause in the contract requiring a hefty balloon payment if the station is moved into Miami.  While I won't claim to be an engineer, it looks, on paper, like you could just pick 104.3 up and move it straight to the main Miami antenna farm.  The only potential issue would be adjacent channel WWUS almost out in Key West.  104.3 has no second or third adjacent channels in Miami to worry about. 
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Here's the rub.  The Miami C FM's are stuck at 1000ft.  So such a move would cause a downgrade to either a C1 or C0, and depending on the format they slap on it post-move, would further chew into market share in Miami.

WEAT-FM has a city grade signal throughout the entire Palm Beaches (Jupiter to Boca).  So does 'RMF.  102.3 and 103.1 does not.  They cover North and Central county and points north.  Not so much south.  106.3, forget it.  107.9 covers where it has to (where WKIS doesn't).  Where to move Sunny that you don't lose ratings and revenue.

Ratings and revenue.  Second biggest issue after engineering such a pilgrimage.

Mr. Gleason?  Dr. Tillery?  The floor's all yours, gentlemen....