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Author Topic: Farthest Daytime AM Regular  (Read 7015 times)
ddsparxx
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Re: Farthest Daytime AM Regular
« Reply #80 on: April 19, 2012, 03:36:42 AM »

That's Atlantic Beach NC not Atlantic City. And yes it was and still is a regular there.

A typo. I meant to say Atlantic Beach, NC.
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Re: Farthest Daytime AM Regular
« Reply #81 on: April 19, 2012, 10:19:56 AM »

From NE NC in Elizabeth City.  Daily can hear New Jersey stations around 230 miles.  Lower power signals mostly over water.  WIBG 1020, WMID 1340 and WENJ 1450.  They are heard every day year 'round.
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Re: Farthest Daytime AM Regular
« Reply #82 on: April 19, 2012, 11:55:24 AM »

From here in Pittsburgh, I think WJR is the farthest constant signal at 228 air miles.

I was able to listen to WJR in the daytime on the stock radio of my VW beetle as far east as Somerset, PA, when I was driving from Michigan to the 1964 World's Fair at Flushing Meadows in NYC.  The length of the path from the WJR transmitter site to Somerset is about 260 miles.

Below is a link to the measured daytime field intensity contours of WJR.

WJR radiates an omnidirectional signal 24/7.  The variations in these measured contours are related to different earth conductivities in different geographic regions of their coverage area.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h85/rfry-100/WJRGroundwaveMeasuredCoverage.jpg

Also in 1964 I drove from NYC to Chicago and I listened to WABC all the way to the outskirts of Pittsburgh. This was during the day in April and about 2PM when I approached Pittsburgh. This could not happen today with that 770 near Pittsburgh.

I could get WABC here sporadically during the day before WKFB signed on at 770.
It was an occasional and not an every-day thing.
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Re: Farthest Daytime AM Regular
« Reply #83 on: April 21, 2012, 11:41:19 AM »


I could get WABC here sporadically during the day before WKFB signed on at 770.
It was an occasional and not an every-day thing.

WABC was a nighttime regular in Houston, if you nulled then KOB 770.
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Re: Farthest Daytime AM Regular
« Reply #84 on: April 21, 2012, 11:47:14 AM »

Not worth trying from here in Nashville, ground conductivity is too low to make it worthwhile....  probably the best daytime regular is 640 Memphis at about 180 miles.

WLW came in all day in Madison, Wis..  That's about 300 miles as well.


WLW was a winter daytime regular in Houston before they got a local 700.  KOA was a winter daytime regular in Dallas until Dallas got a local 850.  My grandfather reported WLW as a daytime regular in Lubbock, TX when it was running 500kW in the 1930's.  His five stage TRF radio had a two foot loop inside the cabinet (I was able to analyze the receiver - tuned RF radios were amazing in the days before superhet).
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Re: Farthest Daytime AM Regular
« Reply #85 on: April 21, 2012, 02:16:29 PM »

Not worth trying from here in Nashville, ground conductivity is too low to make it worthwhile....  probably the best daytime regular is 640 Memphis at about 180 miles.

WLW came in all day in Madison, Wis..  That's about 300 miles as well.


WLW was a winter daytime regular in Houston before they got a local 700.  KOA was a winter daytime regular in Dallas until Dallas got a local 850.  My grandfather reported WLW as a daytime regular in Lubbock, TX when it was running 500kW in the 1930's.  His five stage TRF radio had a two foot loop inside the cabinet (I was able to analyze the receiver - tuned RF radios were amazing in the days before superhet).


When you heard WLW during the winter in Houston was that ground wave or winter daytime skywave?
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Re: Farthest Daytime AM Regular
« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2012, 08:35:18 AM »

At my family's cottage in East Wakefield NH, 660 WFAN NYC is audible on the car radio (engine off) almost all day.  Maybe in summer you lose it between noon and 3pm.  710 WOR, 770 WABC and 880 WCBS also come in in the morning and late afternoon.  I'd say East Wakefield is more than 250 miles from NYC.  I've also heard WFAN and WCBS at the Canadian border in the middle of a winter day.   WABC wasn't audible due to a daytimer on 760 in Champlain, NY.

At the cottage, 690 CBF/CINF Montreal could also be heard, although they're off the air now.  Montreal is about 225 miles away.  (730 CKAC from Montreal gets stepped on by 730 Chicopee MA and 800 CJAD Montreal gets stepped on by 800 Lawrence MA.)  810 WGY Schenectady is also heard all day.  AM 900 in Sherbrooke, Quebec (a simulcast of 800 CJAD Montreal, was it CKTS?) also used to be heard fairly well by day in East Wakefield, although they are also off the air now.  630 WPRO Providence also comes in by day.


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Re: Farthest Daytime AM Regular
« Reply #87 on: April 22, 2012, 08:49:14 AM »




When you heard WLW during the winter in Houston was that ground wave or winter daytime skywave?

Probably a really dependable skywave.  Not there all the time, but definitely more on that off.  I suspect some sort of atmospherics with the Gulf, although I've always thought that did more on FM than AM
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Re: Farthest Daytime AM Regular
« Reply #88 on: April 22, 2012, 12:57:07 PM »

From Vallejo, CA

KMJ 580 Fresno, CA 187.6 mi at 50Kw
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Re: Farthest Daytime AM Regular
« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2012, 12:47:04 AM »

Everyone's already covered the gulf coast but 14 miles inland from the beach in AL the far and away strongest distant regular is WWL at 150 miles.  But at the beach it's a whole 'nother kettle of fish.  Several New Orleans, Tampa and Cubans are easy to catch and perfectly audible with a good radio. 

If I discount the far away salt water stations, I'm still left with WDIZ Panama City at 590.  It's about 120 miles out but still has some water-path to my residence.  There are a few Biloxi stations to the west that are about 75 miles out but they're over Mobile Bay part way and also very weak.

The only non-water path way to go is north.  The furtherest AM regular in that direction?  WBCA 1110 in Bay Minette.  A whopping 30 miles!
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