Double hop e skip

[Nick]

Has anyone here ever gotten double hop e-skip?

I never have gotten it, and it's one of my goals to hear double hop e-skip.

[crainbebo]

Never have IDed one, but did get a tentative 95.1 KORQ Abilene, TX on 6/22/11 in Bothell, WA. They were playing Pitbull's "Give Me Everything"-and it was a song match, but by the time I got back it turned into 1x skip [KATC Colorado Springs, CO, 1070 mi]. KORQ [if it was IDed] would be 1582 mi [probably short 2x].

-crainbebo

[Buckeyes2001]

The following thread deals with double hop Es on the FM band...

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=189426.0

[cd637299]

Never got it, but I *thought* I did, about 2 years ago, from south FL, with a Global on ch 2 and a commercial for Hakim Optical with locations in Winnipeg (and there is CKND2 in Minnedosa MB, a Global affiliate on ch 2 which relays CKND Winnipeg).  I e-mailed the folk at Global, and got a reply, but they just could not get themselves to confirm.  I thought the next thing would be to write Hakim, but they must have thought I was nutty to write about it, and ignored me apparently.

Last fall/winter I got a CTV affiliate on 2 with a Pizza!Pizza! ad with locations in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area), Hamilton & Ottawa.  However the only CTV on 2 in normal E range* is Wiarton which relays CKCO Kitchener.

In other words, apparently "location, location, location" means zilch in Canadian ads!

[*I did get the one in Sault Ste Marie last year.  It was highly likely my Global was Bancroft ON, despite the Winnipeg locations!]

cd

[gar fla]

I wish I could say I've had a double hop but not anything on FM and not on old analog TV that I've been able to ID anyway.

In the 70s, I used to be obsessed with TV e skip when I was in New Jersey but at the time, I didn't know it was called 'sporadic E' or 'E skip' nor did I know what caused it or any of the dynamics of it.

When I'd start to see the rolling bars on channel 2 and then see it sometimes move up to channel 6, I thought it had something to do with solar activity.

There was certainly a pattern to it as far as distance was concerned, the time of day, and which times of day brought in stations from a certain direction.

Late mornings would typically be from Florida with Channel 2 from Miami and Daytona Beach being the strongest and sometimes crystal clear like a local for seconds at a time.

There was even one instance when viewing channel 3 on my antenna that was directed at New York and nulling out the direction of local channel 3 from Philadelphia that I got channel 3 from Tampa overriding our local channel 3 for a short time.

In the mid to late afternoons, the stations would be from the midwest and then later nearer the early evenings, the upper midwest and Canada where I'd get the French speaking channels.

At the time, I never understood why I could never ID anything from any more than half way across the country and my wish at the time was to get a station from the San Francisco Bay Area because I was familiar with them having visited my brother out there. Channel 2 KTVU seemed like it would have been the most easy to identify with their unique logo of the '2' but I never could see it when I would look through all the mess of stations that appeared on channel 2.

I do remember some times where TV stations during e skip events would be very unstable and never stable for any length of time to be able to tell where they were from and I'm thinking I could have been seeing a double hop and didn't know it.

Of course, without any official ID it doesn't count.

[boiseengineer]

There's been some really good trans-Atlantic e-skip from NE USA/Canada to Ireland & England.
http://forums.wtfda.org/forumdisplay.php?24-Got-FM-DX

[gar fla]

I've been checking DX Sherlock many times a day and it's been surprisingly very absent in the US. 

[DeadElvis]

As a kid, I got double-hop on channel 2 -- once.  KTVU/San Francisco to Pascagoula, MS.  That's about 2000 miles.  Oddly, it was an easy catch; it was all by itself.

Of course, on 6m ham (just below channel 2), I get multiple-hop stuff all the time.  Even 5W will work in a beefy opening.

Double-hop on TV has become almost commonplace now.  With almost all low-band TV gone in the US, DXers are getting paths into Latin America, double-hop.  Venezuela is particularly common in places like New England.

DE

[w9wi]

Has anyone here ever gotten double hop e-skip?

I never have gotten it, and it's one of my goals to hear double hop e-skip.

*Once*.

I'm near Nashville.

I've had a number of Albuquerque openings over the years.  On this particular one, the New Mexico stations faded out & were replaced by a few unstable Arizona signals.  Amid those signals, I briefly heard a promo for a "Summer Cash Splash" on "Kixie 96.5", followed by an ad for Sunglasses Warehouse.  (ancient memory, I fear I have that business name wrong)

Googling showed Sunglasses Wearhouse has several locations in the San Diego area, and none anywhere else.  There's a KYXY on 96.5 there ("Kixie"), and their website did show a "Summer Cash Splash" contest.

Wasn't able to get any response to a QSL request but I think I'm reasonable to consider that a KYXY logging. 

Multihop on the 6m ham band is indeed fairly commonplace; I've even made a contact into Croatia that way.

[cd637299]

TV via double hop (or 2Es in our code) is also commonplace, when folk in New England catch Venezuela on ch 2.  I believe I read that it's because there is no land (or no channel 2's) in the path at 1000 miles, so "the coast is clear," one could say.

cd