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Author Topic: Cumulus stations on IHeartRadio are a mess!  (Read 2378 times)
FightingIrish
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Cumulus stations on IHeartRadio are a mess!
« on: May 27, 2012, 09:46:07 AM »

Pulled up the IHeartRadio app on my Android earlier, and noticed that it now finally features Cumulus-owned stations. So, I tried a few of them. Needless to say, I was disappointed.

Sound quality is better than before (when they were on TuneIn). However, the streams I sampled were very unstable. Very choppy. Broke up to the point of being unlistenable. Clear Channel and other stations sounded fine as always. Evidently, they need to work out some bugs.

Anyone else notice this?
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Re: Cumulus stations on IHeartRadio are a mess!
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2012, 02:36:27 PM »

All of their stations have crappy, low quality streams to start with. It's almost like they are light years behind in Internet Streaming. LOL
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Re: Cumulus stations on IHeartRadio are a mess!
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2012, 08:38:02 PM »

The Cumulus stations near me have not been added yet, but Clear Channel said it would take some time before things were completed and running smoothly. I would say give it a month or two.
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Re: Cumulus stations on IHeartRadio are a mess!
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2012, 08:33:04 AM »

All of their stations have crappy, low quality streams to start with. It's almost like they are light years behind in Internet Streaming. LOL

What I could hear of the Cumulus streams sounded better than they have in the past. I guess they're improving their streaming infrastructure to match Clear Channel's. They just need to make them stable. I assume you're not a fan of the newer low-bitrate streaming formats like AAC+. But in today's world, they're pretty much a necessity.

IHR is pretty much geared toward smartphones that stream on the go over (mostly) 3G networks. In a perfect world, yeah, I'd love to stream in 320kbps mp3, but as the bandwidth becomes even more crowded, that becomes even less feasible. As a result, newer formats that allow decent quality at lower bitrates (like the 56k AAC+ that IHR uses) are becoming more common. As far as sound quality and reliability goes, it's the best of both worlds. It may not please audiophile snobs, but it sounds pretty damn good for what it is, and far better than streams sounded years ago.
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Re: Cumulus stations on IHeartRadio are a mess!
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 10:23:25 AM »

Cumulus is taking their Windows Media stream for their Pre-Citadel stations offline and switching over the Stream The World mp3 and AAC streams.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2012, 05:42:25 PM »

Cumulus is taking their Windows Media stream for their Pre-Citadel stations offline and switching over the Stream The World mp3 and AAC streams.

Yep, He-AAC (AAC+) specifically for iHeart..  Clear Channel requires stations in iHeart to use Akamai or Triton Digital (Streamtheworld) for the backend for their streams.

[HE-AAC is a big improvement over WMA - at smaller bit rates]

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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 02:15:03 PM »

All of their stations have crappy, low quality streams to start with. It's almost like they are light years behind in Internet Streaming. LOL

What I could hear of the Cumulus streams sounded better than they have in the past. I guess they're improving their streaming infrastructure to match Clear Channel's. They just need to make them stable. I assume you're not a fan of the newer low-bitrate streaming formats like AAC+. But in today's world, they're pretty much a necessity.

IHR is pretty much geared toward smartphones that stream on the go over (mostly) 3G networks. In a perfect world, yeah, I'd love to stream in 320kbps mp3, but as the bandwidth becomes even more crowded, that becomes even less feasible. As a result, newer formats that allow decent quality at lower bitrates (like the 56k AAC+ that IHR uses) are becoming more common. As far as sound quality and reliability goes, it's the best of both worlds. It may not please audiophile snobs, but it sounds pretty damn good for what it is, and far better than streams sounded years ago.

Actually I am a huge fan of AAC+. It's just about all I use anymore. 64k AAC+ is fantastic quality. I have noticed major improvement recently.
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Re: Cumulus stations on IHeartRadio are a mess!
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 03:21:19 PM »

I personally don't think he-aac v1 or v2 ever sound good. Version 2 in particular is designed primarily for uses at 48kbps and less, and honestly good sound quality is never achieved with such a low bitrate. Parametric stereo just sounds so... fake.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2012, 06:15:00 AM »

@RadioFanBoy: One downside of AAC is that I can never get the streaming URL to play in the version of WMP that I have at my place of business... I guess this means this stream for WGNI in Wilmington will be going bye-bye soon...
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2012, 01:59:17 PM »

@RadioFanBoy: One downside of AAC is that I can never get the streaming URL to play in the version of WMP that I have at my place of business... I guess this means this stream for WGNI in Wilmington will be going bye-bye soon...

WMP prior to 11 does not support AAC native..  Besides these stations "don't" want you to use direct links to listen.. they want you to listen via their web based "flash" players. [They count on your seeing their  web ad impressions to make $$$]

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