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Ryan Williams
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Re: kbcp?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2012, 02:42:09 PM »

In the past, a lot of these folks went pirate, especially the extreme ones.

Give me a break, Bruce. That is a tiny, tiny percentage of churches who have broadcast ministries or even have interest in broadcasting. Church run or backed pirate Christian stations are a rounding error at most.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2012, 07:19:11 AM »

In the past, a lot of these folks went pirate, especially the extreme ones.

Give me a break, Bruce. That is a tiny, tiny percentage of churches who have broadcast ministries or even have interest in broadcasting. Church run or backed pirate Christian stations are a rounding error at most.

When they can do it on a budget - an LPFM budget, they will do it.  They consider it their duty to spread their brand of Christianity, and are fanatical about it.  With only 100 frequencies available on the FM band, it doesn't take very many churches with a bit of cash to blanket the band.  If you have any doubt at all about it, how many places on the dial can you get KSBJ?  Every one of those frequencies is a frequency somebody else can't use for more diversity in the area.  We could have oldies, urban, smooth jazz, or just about any other format forlornly wanted by posters on this board.  At least for a portion of the city.  But - no - there is yet another redundant KSBJ translator already there.

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2012, 11:18:38 PM »

If you have any doubt at all about it, how many places on the dial can you get KSBJ?  Every one of those frequencies is a frequency somebody else can't use for more diversity in the area.  We could have oldies, urban, smooth jazz, or just about any other format forlornly wanted by posters on this board.  At least for a portion of the city.  But - no - there is yet another redundant KSBJ translator already there.

That's what I hate about broadcasters like KSBJ, they don't have the decency to find a way to upgrade into class C coverage and instead litter the metropolis with flea-power translators to compensate for the sucky main signal (which in most cases is listenable in the car or on a good table radio with a selective & sensitive tuner and a good antenna).

That kind of strategy is a waste of bandwidth!
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2012, 05:54:46 PM »

Yes, the Cluttering of FM is well underway with low power junk, in the name of so-called Diversity. Sad, but largely inconsequential, since only we Radio Geeks care much about how the Airwaves are regulated and even fewer of us who hate LP-FM's interfering with DXing effects of Real Radio Stations.

The same evolution occurred in AM with gradual squeezing of signal locations based on extreme directional antennas and the loosening of night-time signal restrictions. So, the march of progress goes on, even if we don't like the direction we're heading. Thanks for the great commentary, Bruce.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2012, 02:21:24 AM »

Yes, the Cluttering of FM is well underway with low power junk, in the name of so-called Diversity. Sad, but largely inconsequential, since only we Radio Geeks care much about how the Airwaves are regulated and even fewer of us who hate LP-FM's interfering with DXing effects of Real Radio Stations.

FM DXing and reception of distant stations is irrelevant to the programming and business models of radio, however.  The number of people who listen that way is microscopic.

But the FM band is getting overcrowded, which is why many of us are beating the drum for expansion down to 76 MHz, allowing the move of AM stations to FM, as well as setting aside a sub-band exclusively for LPFM.
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2012, 08:47:30 AM »

Yes, the Cluttering of FM is well underway with low power junk, in the name of so-called Diversity. Sad, but largely inconsequential, since only we Radio Geeks care much about how the Airwaves are regulated and even fewer of us who hate LP-FM's interfering with DXing effects of Real Radio Stations.

FM DXing and reception of distant stations is irrelevant to the programming and business models of radio, however.  The number of people who listen that way is microscopic.

But the FM band is getting overcrowded, which is why many of us are beating the drum for expansion down to 76 MHz, allowing the move of AM stations to FM, as well as setting aside a sub-band exclusively for LPFM.

FM DX'ing may be irrelevant to people who live in cities, which is about 80% of the US population, but it is way of life to rural listeners who still account for 20% of listeners.  They may not know what DX'ing is, never heard of the term, etc.  But they put up antennas for TV and FM, and buy radios designed for better reception.  Their local mini-Walmart or whatever store may not know what DX is either, but they will know some radios get returned as "defective" and others sell without being returned.  So their shelves eventually get stocked with radios that don't get returned - those with better reception.

Format changes force people into becoming DX'ers in a hurry.  There are at least two active threads on other boards about classical going away in one city, and jazz going away in another.  Those listeners may end up DX'ers if the format is available in a nearby city. 

Natural disasters are another way DX'ers are made.  Katrina evacuees became DX'ers - listening for any information from home on WWL.  I was also surprised to find an active group of DX'ing kids in Lubbock, TX - adept at receiving Radio Disney.

Of course, none of these groups fit into business models.  Although Radio Disney in Dallas made at least two trips to Abilene for their DX listeners there.  I'm not comfortable with the "local advertiser" argument, though.  Most radio ads I hear are for national products or chains.  Those ads are as relevant for DX listeners as they are local.  A station like WBAP that counts on their large footprint can certainly leverage that fact with advertisers if they wish to do so.  A Geico ad, after all, will sell in Olney as easily as it will in Ft. Worth.  It is a product people need, and they will buy regardless of where they live.  Add the hundreds of little towns together, all of the sudden WBAP has a very valid case to sell to advertisers that their audience is substantially bigger than just Ft. Worth.  I bet they can add at least a million to their potential audience - a pretty substantial chunk of audience for national chains and businesses.  A Ft. Worth restaurant won't care, but Geico would.
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2012, 09:55:23 PM »

Whatever happened to opening up the frequencies once occupied by analog tv channels 2-6 for FM broadcasting?

Pipe dream?  Cry
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