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Author Topic: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th  (Read 10510 times)
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Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« on: June 11, 2012, 09:15:06 AM »

It's on IQ's website.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 10:15:00 AM »

Given this is the Philadelphia market, it will be Fall before the listeners catch up with this move!
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 12:00:29 PM »

It will be interesting to see if the listeners go with him with the move.  What happens then if they don't?.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2012, 12:01:59 PM »

It will be interesting to see if the listeners go with him with the move.  What happens then if they don't?.

He's the number one most listened to show in America, and the last good host WPHT has left. The listeners will follow him. And WPHT will sink like the Titanic.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2012, 12:07:31 PM »

They will. His audience is loyal to him. Like Stern's is to him. They won't stay for Smerco, they'll listen to Dom and then go to 106.9. The question will be whether they come back to 1210 after to listen to Buzz Bissinger or stay for Hannity who is God awful? But given what little I know about BB, other than he was a journalist for the Inquirer, he is probably more to the left if Smerco is saying he's thrilled about this. So I think that says all you need to know about which direction pht is going. The new Air America of Philly?
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 01:02:22 PM »

He's the number one most listened to show in America

Debatable, but even if he is, he's NOT the most listened to in Philadelphia.  There's a reason it took until 1991 to clear Limbaugh in Philly at all; the demographics and political breakdown of this market are tricky for him.

Merlin is making the same mistake you are making: treating Philadelphia like it's like every other market.  Each market is different and unique.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 03:59:05 PM »

He's the number one most listened to show in America

Debatable,
Not. Audited numbers based on ratings have consistently put him at the top nationally. If you don't like that methodology, then there are no ratings for anybody national.

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but even if he is, he's NOT the most listened to in Philadelphia. 
Source? Who is the most listened to talker in Philly?

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There's a reason it took until 1991 to clear Limbaugh in Philly at all
Yeah, cloistered DB management thought shows had to be local to succeed until they noticed the audiences for the small AMers in the suburbs carrying Limbaugh (and WABC appearing in the Philly numbers). Guess they hadn't looked at Stern's numbers in his first 5 years here in morning drive either. He'd been number 2 or 1 in mornings for a few years. From New York. And I'm sure Premiere cut them a nice deal for the initial contract.  But DB renewed for the second contract. They only relinquished Limbaugh when they decided to go cheap and CBS decided to bring 1210 back to prominence after a decade of neglect. DB was gone a year later. History is about to repeat.

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the demographics and political breakdown of this market are tricky for him.
Typically in the lower half of the top 10 rated stations in Philly, WWDB shot into the top 3 immediately after picking up Limbaugh. Didn't seem that tricky for them. Surprising to DB management maybe.

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Merlin is making the same mistake you are making: treating Philadelphia like it's like every other market.  Each market is different and unique.
It's a cheap bet for them to place. They bought obscure 106.9 for a realistic price and they have the pick of top flight syndicated talk. Even if it doesn't ignite, it'll cost a fraction of the New York and Chicago debacles. And they'll have Limbaugh to brand whatever they end up with. PHT has no brand now, and likely no future in talk. With diminishing options for AM, I don't see how CBS comes out of this without serious losses. Even Philly doesn't need a 3rd Sports outlet, and it would be the only one without an FM presence. They could trimulcast with IP and broker out the remainder of the schedule, but there'd be little chance of 1210 being a viable station ever again. They had little competition after signing back on in the late 90s after years in the wilderness. Not today.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2012, 05:16:57 PM »

Source? Who is the most listened to talker in Philly?

If I had to, I'm guessing it's Preston & Steve going away.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2012, 09:37:20 PM »

but even if he is, he's NOT the most listened to in Philadelphia. 
Source? Who is the most listened to talker in Philly?

Question was not "talker," question was "show."  Other shows routinely outpull Rush in Philly and always have.

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the demographics and political breakdown of this market are tricky for him.
Typically in the lower half of the top 10 rated stations in Philly, WWDB shot into the top 3 immediately after picking up Limbaugh. Didn't seem that tricky for them. Surprising to DB management maybe.

And where is WPHT with Rush today?  Fifteenth place.  This is the first book that they actually beat WHYY-FM, and that was by a nose.

Also remember that Rush's audience is aging.  His numbers put him well outside the money demo nowadays.

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Merlin is making the same mistake you are making: treating Philadelphia like it's like every other market.  Each market is different and unique.
It's a cheap bet for them to place. They bought obscure 106.9 for a realistic price and they have the pick of top flight syndicated talk. Even if it doesn't ignite, it'll cost a fraction of the New York and Chicago debacles. And they'll have Limbaugh to brand whatever they end up with. PHT has no brand now, and likely no future in talk. With diminishing options for AM, I don't see how CBS comes out of this without serious losses. Even Philly doesn't need a 3rd Sports outlet, and it would be the only one without an FM presence. They could trimulcast with IP and broker out the remainder of the schedule, but there'd be little chance of 1210 being a viable station ever again. They had little competition after signing back on in the late 90s after years in the wilderness. Not today.

WPHT needs major surgery to turn it around, I don't deny.  But a hard rightward turn like is being done by WWIQ is not the answer.  Discounting WIP-FM (which, with sports, goes after a different and younger audience) none of the stations running to the right of WPHT beat them in the ratings.  In fact, none of them got enough listeners (a .1) to even chart.

If you're going to take on an existing format you only divide up the numbers that are already there.  The combined ratings for conservative talk in Philadelphia are 3.0.  You are not going to get the 4 rating you need to break the top 10 magically because you pick up Rush and add two shows that already failed in Philadelphia.

My prediction?  WPHT's numbers don't fall below 2.0.  And once you're out of the first quarter or so, where you have curiosity fueling people tuning in, WWIQ's numbers plunge into the basement.  Maybe the election will keep them in the top 15, but I doubt it.  By January, they'll be lucky to be pulling a 1.0.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2012, 09:06:28 AM »

He's the number one most listened to show in America

Debatable, but even if he is, he's NOT the most listened to in Philadelphia.  There's a reason it took until 1991 to clear Limbaugh in Philly at all; the demographics and political breakdown of this market are tricky for him.

Merlin is making the same mistake you are making: treating Philadelphia like it's like every other market.  Each market is different and unique.
It is not debatable when you look at the number of stations, the number of listeners, and the longevity of each.

Philly is a clueless market. For a City with so much cultural history, most of the PC crowd is attempting to deny the good aspects of this Country. It would not surprise me if his ratings are not reflective of most other markets.

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