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Author Topic: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th  (Read 10558 times)
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2012, 03:43:24 PM »

Here are some interesting Arbitron numbers, courtesy of DCRTV.com, regarding WMAL in Washington, DC, which added a full market signal FM simulcast last year.

Overall, WMAL is 18th in the market. The only FMs that rank lower are a sports talker, out of market signals (suburban DC and Baltimore FMs), CBS's new all-newser and a religious FM.

In their dayparts, the local morning show ranks 15th; Rush ranks 16th; and Hannity ranks 16th.

WMAL had a rich history for many years as a news and talk station. IQ is starting from scratch.

So the question is: What does IQ have going for it that WMAL doesn't? As posted elsewhere, if anything, Philadelphia has been more adverse to Rush and his syndicated conservative talk cohorts than other markets. It was the LAST top 50 market to clear Rush on a major all-market signal. Beck and Hannity have been missing from the market for months.

It's not 1995 anymore. Rush doesn't have the draw he had then.

IQ has an incredible uphill battle ahead.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2012, 08:03:22 PM »

WMAL had a rich history for many years as a news and talk station. IQ is starting from scratch.
WMAL is a Cumulus station which, like WABC, has chopped away at its budget over the years and split up a formerly successful morning show to save money (veteran Andy Parks now does an entertaining afternoon show in tandem with Washington Times correspondents on 730 WTNT). They flushed their most recent morning co-host after she declined to develop a syndicated show in a few days without a support staff. And Washington is another difficult market for talk and for AM. News WTOP departed for FM with notable results a few years ago. WMAL's move to FM was probably smart given the difficulty of AMs covering the whole market. Whether or not they settle on a morning show may determine whether or not they gain some more traction. Meanwhile, the remainder of the talk talent is strewn accross several AMs with compromised power and/or signals. And the NPR outlet is often number 1. This is Washington. That said, WMAL essentially runs Cumulus' lineup and Limbaugh, Hannity and Levin (the FM side tried Imus back in an Oldies incarnation to no avail), so their costs are built in. And CBS has brought in a new FM all-news competitor to WTOP which has yet to make a ratings splash. It takes time.

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So the question is: What does IQ have going for it that WMAL doesn't? As posted elsewhere, if anything, Philadelphia has been more adverse to Rush and his syndicated conservative talk cohorts than other markets. It was the LAST top 50 market to clear Rush on a major all-market signal. Beck and Hannity have been missing from the market for months.
As discussed earlier, Rush made a late debut in Philly because WWDB's programmers had their heads 'insulated from reality' for awhile. Once they belatedly added Limbaugh, the ratings soared. CBS cut the other two Premiere shows because they thought they could sell cheaper local shows. But they'd better have a sales staff that can shop low numbers.

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It's not 1995 anymore. Rush doesn't have the draw he had then.
That's true, but no one has come along to replace him. The younger skewing lifestyle "hot" talk formats have failed to draw a significant audience in just about every market where they've been tried. You can only have so many low-rated sports stations in a market (DC has 3). Conservative talk is the strain of the format that continues to draw consistent numbers. Whether or not it needs younger hosts with more variety in delivery is open for debate.

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IQ has an incredible uphill battle ahead.
Maybe, but it won't be due to competition or lack of programming. PHT's ratings will be Phillies dependent now that their schedule is full of undistinguished talent with no one but Dom and the shell of Smerconish as names. WNTP doesn't compete in the same arena as other talkers. That leaves 106.9. If they can establish a compelling news-talk morning show and use the cream of the syndicated crop for the remainder of the day, their costs will be low and the potential for revenue good. I think there are still enough advertisers who are savvy to the manufactured 'boycotts' that pop up from time to time when a liberal dunk tank get's it underwear bunched, that there is revenue to be had. That plus the FM advantage makes it likely, if not a sure thing, that IQ will be one of Merlin's more profitable ventures (how are the Chicago music stations doing?).

IQ should give us an indication of whether a single talker with a good lineup can thrive in Philly. PHT has always been compromised by either the Phillies or cheap programming decisions (Imus for years). IQ has a clear field to establish whether Philadelphia is really a 'special' market or whether its predecessors were just not up to programming the format to its best advantage.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2012, 07:16:31 PM »

... that says all you need to know about which direction pht is going. The new Air America of Philly?

You write as if Philly actually had an Air America affiliate. It was actually a station in the Poconos - but Air America considered it a Philly clearance on their website.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2012, 08:09:38 PM »

...and a brief (6 months) lease of WHAT's noon to 6pm block for Franken & Rhodes. To negligible ratings, plus it dragged down the rest of WHAT's urban format. HAT was sold shortly thereafter (for $5M to try 'alternative' rock on AM) Franken of course sequed into elected office. Rhodes is now syndicated by Premiere, though she's still heard on only a handful of liberal talk outlets.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2012, 12:07:11 PM »


It's not 1995 anymore. Rush doesn't have the draw he had then.

IQ has an incredible uphill battle ahead.

I've stayed on the outside of the discussion but I think that's the most salient point.  Rush and his market are aging.  He'll get a bump by switching to FM, but it won't be a seismic shift.

WPHT won't be saved by the Phillies- only the 45,000 in the stadium care on a given night that WPHT has the game...because they do so without any IBOC delay.

WPHT will likely go the way of WWKB in Buffalo - a 50 kW signal that has a (relatively) low-performing progressive-talk ("Air America") format that Entercom owns only because it doesn't want to lose the frequency to a competitor that could then lure away the content airing on Entercom's WBEN (AM).

In Buffalo, it somewhat surprises me that Entercom is more interested in wasting the kW at WWKB than selling the station and pocketing the cash, but it appears you make more money by blocking competition and wasting a signal than you do by selling a moribund station and letting someone else have a go.  But that appears to be the problem of radio (especially AM radio) overall nowadays.

As with WWKB, the radio purist in me thinks it's a shame to waste an ND 50kW clear channel slot this way...you would think even an updated "Music of your Life" a la Toronto's AM 740 / CFZM format would do better.

Richard in Allentown
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2012, 12:58:08 PM »

Assuming the 45,000 in the stadium are actually listening to the radio while they are the game. Are they?
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2012, 02:39:00 PM »

Assuming the 45,000 in the stadium are actually listening to the radio while they are the game. Are they?

When I'm there, I am.  Most of the other people are not.

Unless listening over the PA while you're in the concourse buying food counts.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2012, 07:17:36 PM »

Richard,

WWKB is directional at all times with one pattern :

http://fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine.php?sCurrentService=AM&tabSearchType=Appl&sAppIDNumber=314204&sHours=U .

I do agree that a CFZM-type of format on a station here would be a welcome addition.
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2012, 11:59:10 AM »

Richard,

WWKB is directional at all times with one pattern :


Yeah, I knew that...the ND reference was specific to WPHT and my grammar was sloppy.  But still it's sad when a 24/7 50 kW signal becomes a pawn in a turf war.

R in A
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Re: Rush moves to 106.9, Monday, June 25th
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2012, 09:22:34 AM »

Even in 2012 Rushstill has a draw and it will br strongest this election cycle.  I think WWIQ will come out of the box with a 1, which will be an incredible debut.  In a year they will force WPHT to FM. 
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