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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2012, 11:26:22 AM » |
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Because nobody is listening, or cares ??
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2012, 11:27:30 AM » |
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If they were taking the Reds network feed, would that be complete with spots from WLW, not to mention local programming before and after the game broadcast? I thought most network feeds were "clean," meaning anything local does not go up on the bird, so to speak. (And certainly the Reds feed is the only one that should be heard in Dayton. Even here in Columbus, ESPN radio's broadcast was blacked out.) This is not even taking into consideration that: A) WING and WLW are not co-owned, so why would those two simulcast? and B) WLW's signal is so strong in Dayton and anywhere WING can be heard that a simulcast in that market really isn't necessary. Interesting situation, however. I'll have to check for that WLW harmonic next time I head to southwest Ohio.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2012, 11:57:44 AM » |
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If they were taking the Reds network feed, would that be complete with spots from WLW, not to mention local programming before and after the game broadcast? I thought most network feeds were "clean," meaning anything local does not go up on the bird, so to speak. (And certainly the Reds feed is the only one that should be heard in Dayton. Even here in Columbus, ESPN radio's broadcast was blacked out.)
My understanding is the reds feed is clean and does not include spots for WLW unless there was a snafu at Clear Channel.. If it's ran like other MLB radio networks it originates from a separate studio in the cluster and WLW actually picks up that studios feed for the game (with their local op inserting local spots etc while the network feed only has network spots - which has to be because how would you insert your "legal ID" if WLW's is playing on the network feed when they call for station ID)
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2012, 10:01:14 PM » |
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WING carries the Reds games and I'm guessing someone forgot to switch back to local programming after the game. (Did they carry the Reds feed or the ESPN feed Sunday night? It was a national feed also. I wasn't listening.) They were still scrrewing up this morning around 1135 a.m. when Scott Sloan promo's were loudly playing over the Colin Cowherd show from ESPN. What's really cool here is that Terry Lafferty was on WING full-time doing news back in the 70's and there he was again overnight!  How does a station that has the wrong thing playing on the air at 1:30AM still have the same wrong thing playing on the air at 11:35AM, ten hours later? Move ahead 24 hours and we now hear both 700/WLW and ESPN simultaneously on 1410/WING. IMO, if no one cares, the station should go black....how sad that a station that had killer ratings yesteryear has be shown such disrespect. It would be more humane to put the ole' girl to sleep if that's all the respect she is going to get. 
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2012, 11:22:07 PM » |
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My question is.. HAS someone actually tried to contact Clear channel engineering or programming about this instead of dogging them on a radio message board.. In all honesty in today's world with all the limited resources it's quite possible (sadly) that no one is aware of this happening (does that make it right.. no) .. but sometimes a simple phone call to them to inform will get head way to get things resolved.
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2012, 12:00:36 AM » |
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WING is Mainline, not C.C.. And a friend informs me that calls were received after the problem continued on the Tuesday mid-day show. The problem is "being worked on".  As to Reds broadcasts, if they lost their primary method of receiving the game, they may have been picking up the WLW signal and re-broadcasting it. That signal is a mutha and I know of stations that have had to resort to this with other sporting events. Not sure about any legal ramifications, but if you do it and no one knows, "no call, no !foul".
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2012, 12:16:58 AM » |
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WING is Mainline, not C.C.. And a friend informs me that calls were received after the problem continued on the Tuesday mid-day show. The problem is "being worked on".  As to Reds broadcasts, if they lost their primary method of receiving the game, they may have been picking up the WLW signal and re-broadcasting it. That signal is a mutha and I know of stations that have had to resort to this with other sporting events. Not sure about any legal ramifications, but if you do it and no one knows, "no call, no !foul". When I board-op'd at WLQR in Toledo back in 1999, they simply picked up WJR's broadcast of Tigers games and inserted local spots. The studios are about 40 miles, give or take a few, from WJR's tower, so never any real interference issues and no cancellation at night. Nowadays, of course, that isn't possible in that particular situation. In Dayton, such a setup would work if the receiver wasn't in an interference-prone area.
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2012, 01:14:39 AM » |
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WING is Mainline, not C.C.. And a friend informs me that calls were received after the problem continued on the Tuesday mid-day show. The problem is "being worked on".  As to Reds broadcasts, if they lost their primary method of receiving the game, they may have been picking up the WLW signal and re-broadcasting it. That signal is a mutha and I know of stations that have had to resort to this with other sporting events. Not sure about any legal ramifications, but if you do it and no one knows, "no call, no !foul". Sorry - Mainline I knew that -- Shows one should not be posting at like 1am when their half asleep  - Matt
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2012, 10:07:44 AM » |
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With WLW running in HD, they could feed a HD receiver into the board and get studio quality reception....but why?
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2012, 10:55:46 AM » |
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At one point, WLW's audio was a clean as FM fidelity and the engineerS were proud of that feat. What gives? 
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