Rimshot Signals

[ai4i]

As one who frequents this board removed farly from my favorite radio market, I notice at least four second adjacencies to regular NYC FM's which seem to cover much of the four main boroughs in some cases better than what would be called rimshots. What kind of listener-ship do La Que Buena, K-Love, and the shared tower stations, WVIP and WFAS, get in the Apple? I assume WSOU and WFMU do not amount to anything and I was not about to check all the outlying AM signals.

[Jamie]

As one who frequents this board removed farly from my favorite radio market, I notice at least four second adjacencies to regular NYC FM's which seem to cover much of the four main boroughs in some cases better than what would be called rimshots. What kind of listener-ship do La Que Buena, K-Love, and the shared tower stations, WVIP and WFAS, get in the Apple? I assume WSOU and WFMU do not amount to anything and I was not about to check all the outlying AM signals.

WSOU gets into lower westchester, Queens near the 2 Bridges. I love it.  I don't crap for Rock music in the Stamford/Greenwich CT area tho.  If I were to try hard with a directional antenna at home I can get WSOU over WPKN and WDHA over Kix 1055.  Once and a blue moon with a Big DX WRAT. otherwise non directional over the air is Nothing. May the rock hole of my area forever continue when I am not on air.  91.7 WXCI does make to about White Plains but Urbanised RF interfence gets really bad for us down near there.

[XCountry285]

Do you mean rimshots into NYC proper or into the NYC Market?
Rimshots of the NYC market:
102.3-WSUS-Franklin, NJ/102.3 WBAB-FM Long Island
105.5-DHA-Morristown, NJ
98.3-Magic 98.3-New Brunswick, NJ
107.1-The Peak-Westchester, NY
107.1-The Breeze-Eatontown, NJ
106.3-WKMK-Thunder 106-Neptune, NJ

[ai4i]

I just chose the four commercial FM outsiders which seem to cover the four contiguous boroughs best.
I mean within the boroughs, WFAS seems to be the only one programmed main stream, but they are also the weakest of the four.

[DavidEduardo]

As one who frequents this board removed farly from my favorite radio market, I notice at least four second adjacencies to regular NYC FM's which seem to cover much of the four main boroughs in some cases better than what would be called rimshots. What kind of listener-ship do La Que Buena, K-Love, and the shared tower stations, WVIP and WFAS, get in the Apple? I assume WSOU and WFMU do not amount to anything and I was not about to check all the outlying AM signals.

The original definition of a "rimshot" was a station outside an MSA (Metro Survey Area, not the OMB-defined MSA or Metropolitan Statistical Area) that got enough signal into a particular metro to compete, in some form or another, for dollars or listeners.

Today, the term is used rather loosely and applied to weaker signals inside a metro, too. We used to simply call these stations "limited" or "suburban" but they were "home to the metro" in Arbitron parlance.

WQBU is well inside the metro and, in a sense, not even suburban as it is faaar from the East End, the far limit of the NY MSA to the east. It is a niche format, appealing mostly to (1) Hispanics who are (2) Spanish dominant and who (3) are Mexican and who (4) like regional Mexican music. Still, it gets between a 0.3 and a 0.9 share, depending on sample distribution.

I am not familiar enough with the others to venture an opinion.

[radioguy39nj]

WSOU gets into lower westchester, Queens near the 2 Bridges.

Why then is WSOU broadcasting MiLB Brooklyn Cyclones games this season?  Is their signal receivable in Brooklyn?

[ai4i]

Thanks, DE.
BTW...I have no Idea where the borders of the NYC market are or of the Long Island market.

[pjc1961]

WSOU gets into lower westchester, Queens near the 2 Bridges.

Why then is WSOU broadcasting MiLB Brooklyn Cyclones games this season?  Is their signal receivable in Brooklyn?

Info from the Brooklyn Cyclones website on the WSOU arrangement here.

MediaBistro's piece here.

Apparently the Cyclones couldn't come to an agreement with Kingsborough Community College/WKRB for another season due to renovation at the college's Manhattan Beach studios this summer which would knock them off the air for a stretch.

Another factor was the signal: WSOU 89.5 should reach Coney Island - if not trampled upon by those pesky pirates. I'll defer to Brooklyn residents/travelers re: reception issues.

[DavidEduardo]

Thanks, DE.
BTW...I have no Idea where the borders of the NYC market are or of the Long Island market.

Here you are... the counties and boroughs that form the NY radio market (Long Island, Nassau and Suffolk Counties, is / are part of the NY radio market, but also broken out in a separate Arbitron report):

Fairfield, CT
Bergen, NJ
Essex, NJ
Hudson, NJ
Middlesex, NJ
Monmouth, NJ
Morris, NJ
Passaic, NJ
Somerset, NJ
Union, NJ
Bronx, NY
Kings, NY
Nassau, NY
New York, NY
Putnam, NY
Queens, NY
Richmond, NY
Rockland, NY
Suffolk, NY
Westchester, NY

[ai4i]

Looks like a lot!
Does that include the nineteenth R-I market or are they another recognised market?