Stations that should flip

[XCountry285]

92.3 should flip to Dance
94.7 should flip to Alternative or to country if 101.9 flips back to Alternative
101.9 should flip back to RXP as Alternative or Country if 94.7 flips to alternative
the #1 Market in the country and we lack formats that all other cities even minor small cities have!

[MusicRadioUSA]

would like to hear music back on 101.9 and Country on 94.7

[ProducerGuy]

I'll add a spanking to your pounding:

Rush Radio on all of the Clear Channel and Cumulus Stations in the 50 mile radius of Empire and loudspeakers inside of Manhattan's Subways, louder in Tri-Beca and the upper East Side and Gracie Mansion.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

With a sign that says "TALK IS HERE TO STAY! P.S. That means no more oldies either. We like to make money and feed our families, and formats that don't bill won't allow us to do so, as much as you miss hearing Bobby Darin, Pearl Jam or Garth Brooks on New York radio".

I hear there's this wonderful invention called an iPod. It plays whatever music you want whenever you want it. If you absolutely need jocks blabbering between songs, hire a guy at Fiverr.com to cut liners for your pretend station.

[Managing Board Editor]

Some posts have been relocated to Take It Outside:

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=214559.msg1926095#msg1926095

[jhguthlac]

The fact that a format is successful in other markets does mean that translates to success in market number uno.  It is only a success if it bills well.  Otherwise, it is a failure.

[XCountry285]

It's not a failure unless it's been tried. Have these formats been tried in the past yes, however that was then and this is now for country a decade later and for alternative rock it's never been tried in nyc. It's about time that someone tried something other than Top 40, A/C, Rhythmic CHR in this city. Go after another audience. I think those two formats as well as Hip Hop (such as Power 105.1) work well as a bridge between most male & female listeners you can grab listeners across the board which is great. Perhaps someone could try something on 101.9 like they are doing on 87.7 in Cleveland, rock with sports mixed together. I have always felt that rock is a good format to put with sports, other formats like Hip Hop or A/C wouldn't really make too much sense because you're typically alienating listeners that don't enjoy sports or care for it.

[Tony Santiago]

The fact that a format is successful in other markets does mean that translates to success in market number uno.  It is only a success if it bills well.  Otherwise, it is a failure.

I did read the TIO's first before I came to this.

I can only speak for dance music here but I do realize that we are in the most CONSERVATIVE radio market in the nation.  I also see more spoken word formats happening on the FM dial before ANY music format since radio (meaning "corporate") basically destroyed the notion, at least in NYC anyway, that those under the age of 30 care about FM since they have gone to digital media players, smartphones and social media.  If there is a "failure" that would happen here, it's corporates thinking; basically cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Having said that, I also believe that if you give a VERY COMPELLING reason to get those listeners back somehow, a station can be successful and we are talking billings.  Radio has become "McDonalds" in that sense and that has turned the young crowd off.  Even though 92.3 Now, Z-100 and 'KTU have different approaches to their formats, there is still that "similarity" of sorts.  I'm just saying perhaps add a LITTLE "spice" to things and you could have something! 

New York City is a rhythmic market.  Sure, you play whats known commercially but then you add in those elements that dance fans would like (I would go a bit MORE deeper than Pulse 87 would since EDM has taken off big and stay away from dance material that would date back to the days of Hot 103/97).  I strongly believe such a station would bill well because you have the fanbase here that would tune in, thus bringing in advertisers that could reach to them.  And if it's that compelling to bring back the younger crowd to the FM just to hear this, then you have something BIGGER going on and that could translate to other markets that are "dance friendly" such as Miami, Los Angeles, Chicago, Minneapolis.  You get the point

I can't talk for the other formats.  That would be up to those people that believe in them the same way I believe in dance

[Morpheux]

I hate to be the one to say it but Dance coming back to NYC on FM has practically no chance today.We will have to wait out a few more years and hope that EDM continues to grow and that the spoken words format take a dive. That means that EDM will have to go more pop than it already has with the likes of Rihanna,Britney and the other usual suspects.So unless you're ready to embrace DJ Paris Hilton,let's look at other alternatives. Just my humble opinion.

[Tony Santiago]

I hate to be the one to say it but Dance coming back to NYC on FM has practically no chance today.We will have to wait out a few more years and hope that EDM continues to grow and that the spoken words format take a dive. That means that EDM will have to go more pop than it already has with the likes of Rihanna,Britney and the other usual suspects.So unless you're ready to embrace DJ Paris Hilton,let's look at other alternatives. Just my humble opinion.

And I hear you.

And based on that corporate thinking, our chances are slim to NONE.  But I'm still taking that chance.

[evalmaster]

The current issue of NY magazine has a very positive article about the current state of EDM.  Clubs are thriving, the music has a resurgence of popularity.  But nowhere is the lack of radio presence noted.  Since it can do so well without a ny radio station, maybe it is not really that important to have a commercial OTA outlet.  There are enough internet streaming alternatives.  Its truly unfortunate but the current state of music radio is way past its prime.  Dance music may not really need radio.