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Author Topic: KYW 1060/WEPN-AM 1050 question  (Read 2203 times)
satech
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Re: KYW 1060/WEPN-AM 1050 question
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2012, 12:42:58 PM »

Today, to minimize interference between the two stations in central Jersey , we both voluntarily limit our bandwidth to 6khz.  This helps a lot when compared to standard 10khz bandwidth.  This helps both stations to maximize their coverage in that area.
Didn't you used to use Kahn Power-Side too?
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Re: KYW 1060/WEPN-AM 1050 question
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2012, 08:43:54 PM »

WEPN 1050 will switch to ESPN Deportes in Sept. English-language ESPN fare remains on 98.7 FM. 1050 NYC protects Toronto, Mexico,and KYW.The null KYW has in Bucks Co. protects  1050, and both stations are reduced to sideband gibberish in much of NJ. I had heard of WMCA's CP for 50 kW. The pattern  would have to be very tight to protect Philly and WFRB in MD. 50 kW at 570 would be a monster over water to the Bahamas or Bermuda.

WMCA had a CP for 30 kW-D not 50, I believe (or maybe, it was 50 kW-D/30 kW-N). Six-tower teardrop. Three of the six towers would have been the existing three. The additional three would have been in a parallel line. The six-tower setup, which WNYC 820 also uses, would probably have allowed WNYC to increase its night power, which is currently only 1 kW and doesn't fully cover the five boroughs at night.

As for WEPN protecting CHUM--I don't think so. Each one sends plenty of signal toward the other at night. Both protect the Mexican border, however--by international treaty. WEPN's protection of KYW is a consequence of WEPN's protection of the Mexican border. By treaty, WEPN and WHK 1220 in Cleveland (both 50 kW-U on Mexican ex-IA channels) are DA-1. The treaty requires the stations to use their night patterns, which have deep nulls toward Mexico, at all times. If there were no treaty requirement, WEPN could not have been DA-2 because any null fill-in to the southwest would have interfered worse with KYW, a higher class of station (ex-IB) than WEPN (ex-II). As far as KYW relaxing its pattern to the northeast, it's out now. There is now a full-time station on 1060 outside of Boston (50 kW-D/2.5 kW-N DA-2). The night pattern uses five towers and is deeply nulled over a 210-degree arc centered at 270 degrees true. The towers are very tall (205 degrees) to minimize high-angle radiation, thereby further reducing the interference to KYW.
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Re: KYW 1060/WEPN-AM 1050 question
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2012, 10:44:00 PM »

Today, to minimize interference between the two stations in central Jersey , we both voluntarily limit our bandwidth to 6khz.  This helps a lot when compared to standard 10khz bandwidth.  This helps both stations to maximize their coverage in that area.
Didn't you used to use Kahn Power-Side too?

If both had HD, the IBUZ would destroy each other's coverage
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Re: KYW 1060/WEPN-AM 1050 question
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2012, 09:36:06 PM »


Soon 1050 AM will switch to a Spanish version of ESPN.  Just what we need in NY.  More alien crap.

The largest group of Hispanics in the New York City market is Puerto Rican. None are "aliens" and the use of Spanish in Puerto Rico, USA, goes back 5 centuries.
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Re: KYW 1060/WEPN-AM 1050 question
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2012, 12:19:03 PM »

The best thing for KYW to do is to simply turn off their IBOC hash generator. Otherwise people with HD Radio receivers in their cars are going to crash into a wall just so they don't have to listen to the signal dropping back to analog every 5 seconds like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtPIK3JM4C8
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Re: KYW 1060/WEPN-AM 1050 question
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2012, 01:01:29 PM »

The best thing for KYW to do is to simply turn off their IBOC hash generator. Otherwise people with HD Radio receivers in their cars are going to crash into a wall just so they don't have to listen to the signal dropping back to analog every 5 seconds like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtPIK3JM4C8

I believe if people are listening to KYW in HD, they're listening on WIP-FM HD-2.
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Re: KYW 1060/WEPN-AM 1050 question
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2012, 07:44:16 PM »

Agreed. The 1060 HD signal actually sounded a bit better than the FM HD simulcast when I checked about a year ago, but since I introduced a web radio into my equipment rack next to the Sony XDR-F1HD tuner, I haven't been able to pull in AM HD due to interference, despite using an external powered ferrite antenna and being within 5 miles of KYW and around 20 miles from WPHT's South Jersey tower site.

Does anyone have experience with HD AM reception on a car unit? How reliable is it? How does it sound vs an FM station? How about on a compromised signal like WDAS(AM)?
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Re: KYW 1060/WEPN-AM 1050 question
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2012, 08:58:20 AM »

If you have a web radio, that seems like the best way to listen to KYW anyway.  WPHT, too, except for the Phillies games which are blacked out online (but which you can listen to via analog FM).
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Re: KYW 1060/WEPN-AM 1050 question
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2012, 12:32:41 PM »


Does anyone have experience with HD AM reception on a car unit? How reliable is it? How does it sound vs an FM station? How about on a compromised signal like WDAS(AM)?


I had once instance with a rental to check out HD AM.  I am up in Allentown where KYW comes in like a local, and I was heading SW towards Harrisburg.  By comparison, WIP-FM HD2 is inaudible in Allentown.

This was nighttime reception so the HD cut in & out somewhat.  It was interesting to hear KYW in such good fidelity but it got annoying with the cut-ins and cut-outs.

To me it seems HD AM is like a stupid pet trick.  If you are interested in HD benefits in your local market, you'd be better off with an FM HD2/HD3 signal because many younger listeners are likely to ignore anything on AM even HD.

If my next car radio has HD-AM, that's nice, but I don't think I'll care to pay a dime extra for it.

Richard in Allentown
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