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DominiqueRadio
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Re: 101x over censoring songs
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2012, 12:00:48 AM »

I'm all about truth in labeling.  Check your dictionary.  I believe --by definition-- unless your programs are transmitted by radio, you are not a radio station.  Sure you reach some listeners on their smart phones, but then all wireless callers could call themselves radio stations.

I guess it is a matter of perspective.  I for one would have to disagree.  I purchased the rights for my call letters from the NADB/ (National Association Of Digital Broadcasters.)  KHHA-DB.  DB obviously standing for digital broadcaster.   While what you referred to might pose true several decades ago, in the digital age.... in my opinion you couldn't be any more incorrect.

The  radio industry has changed greatly within the past 20 years and now with greater access to digital broadcasting radio stations, it is going to change even more.  Now, every vehicle coming off the line has the ability to play online RADIO stations. 

Having said that... if I am riding around the city streaming a digital broadcaster in my brand new ride.... wouldn't that constitute as a radio station???
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Re: 101x over censoring songs
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2012, 01:00:52 AM »

I purchased the rights for my call letters from the NADB/ (National Association Of Digital Broadcasters.)  KHHA-DB.  DB obviously standing for digital broadcaster.

This website does not appear to have any authority to assign call letters, yet it does so all over the world.  By the way, their facebook page says they were founded 2009.  It says it's an advocacy and educational group but appears to do nothing but sell call letters.
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Re: 101x over censoring songs
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2012, 01:34:37 AM »

Now, every vehicle coming off the line has the ability to play online RADIO stations. 

While some cars have Internet enabled dashboards, nowhere near all of them do. Another, and larger, percentage have ways to connect a mobile device wirelessly or via bluetooth.

But all of them require some form of paid data account. Not everyone does this.

More significant is the fact that the average car on the road today is 10 years old. That means that, even if all cars were web-enabled, it would take 20 years to achieve 100% penetration of the technology. Whether everyone pays for connectivity is another issue.

Does your "station" with its faux call letters have any revenue model? What do you pay for digital royalties? You do pay royalties, don't you?
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2012, 01:38:09 AM »

This website does not appear to have any authority to assign call letters, yet it does so all over the world. 

This sounds a bit like the thing the magazine "Popular Electronics" did in the early 60's where they gave "monitor" call signs to radio DXers. I was in Ohio, and got WPE8AWK.

Of course, just like the current calls being discussed, the calls were meaningless and held no authority. But it was fun.
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Re: 101x over censoring songs
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2012, 05:24:04 AM »

Seems to me that if you can't pick it up on a radio, it's not a radio station. And frankly, if I were a business in SA and you came to me wanting to sell me advertising and handed me a card that said 'KHHA 102.9' I'm going to be looking for it at 102.9 and when you chuckle and say 'oh well, it's not really on the air, it's an internet broadcast' all your credibility if flushed right down the toilet.  It's false advertising at worse, misleading at best.
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Re: 101x over censoring songs
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2012, 07:27:01 AM »

On topic:
Offending just one or two listeners can have disastrous effect on overall listenership and advertising sales.

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The wireless transmission through space of electromagnetic waves in the approximate frequency range from 10 kilohertz to 300,000 megahertz.

D.R., I don't think your streaming qualifies.  Broadcasting, perhaps...radio...not.
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Re: 101x over censoring songs
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2012, 01:35:14 PM »

On topic:
Offending just one or two listeners can have disastrous effect on overall listenership and advertising sales.

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The wireless transmission through space of electromagnetic waves in the approximate frequency range from 10 kilohertz to 300,000 megahertz.

D.R., I don't think your streaming qualifies.  Broadcasting, perhaps...radio...not.

But they are people like me that are offended by not hearing the song the way it is intended to be played with the word hoe in it during adult only hours of the night.

KSJL played it, and so did KSYM on the Urban Contemporary show circa before House Nation/Electrorhythms without all the censoring.
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Re: 101x over censoring songs
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2012, 05:45:04 PM »

From the FCC's site Profane Broadcast Restrictions

The FCC has defined profanity as “including language so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance.”

Like indecency, profane speech is prohibited on broadcast radio and television between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.


How many stations will have two copies of the same song? one they can play at any time and the other 'adult only' version that fits the fcc guidelines, it's easier just to have one censored copy that you can play all the time and not have to worry about it.  Heck we've all heard ads running 4 days after the 'sale' was over, it'd be a pain to actually have to keep track of which song goes when, and with the acute shortage of personnel in stations now day, it's just not worth it.
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