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Re: KOAI-FM
« Reply #100 on: October 15, 2006, 03:39:04 PM »

Well, what do you think of his analysis of the 3 remaining CBS smooth jazz stations (L.A., Detroit, Houston)?

From my Houston perspective, I have no trouble with his argument.  It would not stun me if CBS flipped KHJZ here to the Movin' format.  The only thing that might stay their hand is the fact that it is one of only two CBS FM's in the Houston market, unlike the five in DFW, so the sales synergies are greatly different.  They couldn't use it as part of a Wall Of Woman strategy, for instance.

KHJZ is sounding rather tired and repetitive these days, IMHO...I don't listen to it as much as I once did because, quite simply, I'm getting fairly bored with it.  But if CBS was to dump SJ one of the struggling rimshots (hello, Cumulus?) might give it a try, although I doubt SJ would be any long term success on what would be its fourth try in the Houston market.

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« Reply #101 on: October 15, 2006, 07:30:31 PM »

At least you've still got Smooth Jazz down in Houston.

Truthfully, I travel between DFW and Houston a great deal and to me, Houston radio sucks.
Not nearly the amount of channels as the DFW area...........

Also, notice what a hot topic this is in terms of the amount of postings on this subject?

Yet has ANYONE received ANY type of reply from KOAI, when it asked for your comments?
I certainly haven't.

Still a HUGE bone-headed move and I for one hope it BITES THEM IN THE ASS, BIG TIME !!

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« Reply #102 on: October 15, 2006, 09:05:40 PM »

Ditto.
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« Reply #103 on: October 15, 2006, 11:24:12 PM »

Given time it will. Kurt Johnson is a person who B_ his way to the top [EDIT]. His touch is like giving Roundup to a weed.
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Re: KOAI-FM
« Reply #104 on: October 16, 2006, 09:08:14 PM »

I have just finished writing a very nasty letter to CBS expressing my views on the change of the Oasis. It really concerns me in this day and age that CBS is more concerned that their radio station may be referred to as a "black" radio station so to speak than just a great one.

Bottom line in all of this....the change was made because of 2 colors...black and green. Basically they felt that  Black people were not shelling out enough Green to support their station. And if it's not White...It's not right.

I am a Biracial 29 year old female that strongly thinks that we are already conforming enough in the United States to Hispanics in general. If you go to Mexico or any other Hispanic populated country, you will not see any of them trying to keep our English listening ear. I feel if the radio station was falling into a financial crunch they should have reached out to their loyal listeners instead of just writing us all off. This whole situation is just a tragedy for ALL involved.

To clarify....the Oasis was not a Black or White radio station at all. It was a great jazz station that probably just needed some fine tuning or a facelift. It is very sad to hear now that it will be a Hispanic geared radio station now though. Weird. It's not ok to say that it may have been a "Black" radio station but it IS ok to say that it WILL BE a Hispanic one.

Oh Yeah....I forgot...this wasn't about race...it was about aging.  Roll Eyes
So I guess we are doing to this radio station what we do to our seniors....put them in a home for the "Old and In The Way"

What a Crying Shame Cry
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« Reply #105 on: October 16, 2006, 09:48:58 PM »

I have just finished writing a very nasty letter to CBS expressing my views on the change of the Oasis. It really concerns me in this day and age that CBS is more concerned that their radio station may be referred to as a "black" radio station so to speak than just a great one.

Who said they changed it because it had about 40% Black listeners? They changed it because the billings were low, and the average age was increasing and the old demos made it hard to sell.

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Bottom line in all of this....the change was made because of 2 colors...black and green. Basically they felt that  Black people were not shelling out enough Green to support their station. And if it's not White...It's not right.

The change was not made on color lines. It was made because the station was becoming significantly 55+, and you can not sell that even if the listeners are purple.

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I am a Biracial 29 year old female that strongly thinks that we are already conforming enough in the United States to Hispanics in general. If you go to Mexico or any other Hispanic populated country, you will not see any of them trying to keep our English listening ear. I feel if the radio station was falling into a financial crunch they should have reached out to their loyal listeners instead of just writing us all off. This whole situation is just a tragedy for ALL involved.

How can you reach out to 55+ listeners and ask theum to be younger again? I wish they could, though.  Wink

There are twice as many Hispanics in dallas as Blacks, so you are going to get about twice as many stations trying to cater to Hispanics as to Blacks. Not because either group is being favored, but because if you get too many stations chasing any group, the shares are not enough to go around, so the market adjusts.

We have Spanish language stations in Dallas because about 70% or so of Dallas Hispanics like them, listen to them, and produce salable ratings. There are not enough English dominant folks in Mexico City to support a station in English, so there is no such staiton (although there used to be in the 60's through the early 90's). It is all about how many people would listen to a station in the age groups advertisers want (basically 18 to 54).

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To clarify....the Oasis was not a Black or White radio station at all. It was a great jazz station that probably just needed some fine tuning or a facelift. It is very sad to hear now that it will be a Hispanic geared radio station now though. Weird. It's not ok to say that it may have been a "Black" radio station but it IS ok to say that it WILL BE a Hispanic one.

Again, it is abot the age of the listeners, not the color. The second highest biller in the market is a Black station, so there is no stigma placed on such a station in the market. KOAI died of old age, not of racism.

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Oh Yeah....I forgot...this wasn't about race...it was about aging.  Roll Eyes
So I guess we are doing to this radio station what we do to our seniors....put them in a home for the "Old and In The Way"


Advertisers support radio staitons. And most do not buy any audience 55+, so its definitely about age. Advertisers love a good in-demo Black station, as KKDA proves.  KKDA, last year, outbilled KOAI by about 2.5 to 1.
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« Reply #106 on: October 16, 2006, 09:55:40 PM »

It is very funny to me that you keep on pulling this 55+ statistic. Especially since I have not seen one 55+ person yet complaining that the station is gone. Actually, it seems that the only people complaining here are between their 20's and 50's. How is that?

If we weren't listening, how the heck would we know it was gone and be pissed about it in the first place?

Just an observation..........
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« Reply #107 on: October 16, 2006, 10:08:08 PM »

It is very funny to me that you keep on pulling this 55+ statistic. Especially since I have not seen one 55+ person yet complaining that the station is gone. Actually, it seems that the only people complaining here are between their 20's and 50's. How is that?

Maybe because demographics of various web forums show few to any senior citizen posters...
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« Reply #108 on: October 16, 2006, 10:10:23 PM »

It is very funny to me that you keep on pulling this 55+ statistic. Especially since I have not seen one 55+ person yet complaining that the station is gone. Actually, it seems that the only people complaining here are between their 20's and 50's. How is that?

If we weren't listening, how the heck would we know it was gone and be pissed about it in the first place?

Just an observation..........

How many 55+ people do you think frequent a radio message board? This is not a poll, this is a palce to come and talk about radio. Any statistics derived from us posters would be wildly unrepresentative of the bulk of radio users (or non-users) as few people care that much about radio as to search out a board and post a message. We are radio geeks here, all of us. We are not representative of the broader reality.

The fact is that KOAI was becoming a predominantly 55+ station per Arbitron. And ad agencies and transactinal buyers use Arbitron to quantify their buys. Arbitron is the currency of radio. Those clients do not buy 55+, so if you are mostly 55+, you are not going to be making much money. It is truly as simple as that.
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« Reply #109 on: October 16, 2006, 10:11:06 PM »

It is very funny to me that you keep on pulling this 55+ statistic. Especially since I have not seen one 55+ person yet complaining that the station is gone. Actually, it seems that the only people complaining here are between their 20's and 50's. How is that?

Maybe because demographics of various web forums show few to any senior citizen posters...

You get the point... you said it first!  Cheesy
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