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Re: Songs that sounded "better" on AM
« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2008, 10:36:33 PM »

I now interrupt this thread to say that the songs that sounded "better" on AM sounded better on the AM radios that existed back in the heyday when those songs were hits!  Not on the crappy, tinny AM radios that are out there now!   Roll Eyes

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Re: Songs that sounded "better" on AM
« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2008, 10:46:28 AM »

Yes you are so correct!!
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Re: Songs that sounded "better" on AM
« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2008, 08:26:34 PM »

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Re: Songs that sounded "better" on AM
« Reply #73 on: July 22, 2008, 09:32:25 AM »

I now interrupt this thread to say that the songs that sounded "better" on AM sounded better on the AM radios that existed back in the heyday when those songs were hits!  Not on the crappy, tinny AM radios that are out there now!   Roll Eyes

I now return you to normal programming. Grin

Since I have only ever been using hifi AMs, I forget that most don't have this luxury.
But I take the hi-fi for granted.. Thank you for pointing this out.  Generally the problem is too-narrow bandwidtrh on
the medium to expensive radios, making them muddy on AM.  Cheapies have wideband (good high frequency) response but tiny speakers.

If you want to hear how songs can sound better on AM, you need to have the right radio.


Songs heard yesterday on AM which sound better on AM.

  Somethin' Stupid   by Frank and Nancy Sinatra.

Probably everything by Nancy Sinatra. 
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Re: Songs that sounded "better" on AM
« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2008, 11:15:31 PM »

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Probably everything by Nancy Sinatra. 

including Some Velvet Morning w/ Lee Hazlewood...
White Bird-It's a Beautiful Day
I Wanna Get Next To You-Rose Royce
Day After Day-Badfinger
Blow Away-George Harrison
any Bread
any Carly Simon
any Joni Mitchell
Stand Tall-Burton Cummings
any 70's Wings
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Re: Songs that sounded "better" on AM
« Reply #75 on: September 04, 2008, 09:24:41 AM »

Berry Gordy of Motown had his house engineers (Mike Miller, et al) built replicas of AM car radio systems in-house to replicate the sound of an automotive sound system. Many Motown songs were then re-equalized, re-mixed and run through this system to assure punch and clarity in cars, which was of course, a primary outlet for music in the heyday of AM Soul and Top 40 radio.

 I understand the most elaborate of these test setups even used a CBS Labs Volumax AM radio processor, the predominant station signal processor of the era for dead-on replication of what stations used. There is a striking difference between the hard-panned 3-track stereo studio master tapes of early Motown (Vandellas on the left with rhythm, the rest of the Funk Brothers on the right, and Martha Reeves' lead vocal dead in the center) and the mono single release mixes.

 (The "Motown Remixed" project of a few years ago re-did these 3, 4, and 8-track studio masters for clarity, even to the point of releasing alternate takes of familiar hits that sounded better than the original release versions. For instance, The Temptations' "My Girl" in the new series is 16 bars longer than the original 1965 release version, has a much better full stereo mix, and the orchestra plays the song to conclusion instead of fading out.)
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Re: Songs that sounded "better" on AM
« Reply #76 on: September 22, 2008, 10:32:18 PM »

A lot of 50's-60's Hits that were cheaply and poorly recorded, like the O'Kaysons "Girl Watcher", Tommy James & The Shondells "Hanky Panky" and especially Gary U.S. Bonds "Quarter To Three" sound so much better on AM.
Listening to them on FM exposes all the noise and distortion those recordings had. 
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« Reply #77 on: September 22, 2008, 10:39:11 PM »

Berry Gordy of Motown had his house engineers (Mike Miller, et al) built replicas of AM car radio systems in-house to replicate the sound of an automotive sound system. Many Motown songs were then re-equalized, re-mixed and run through this system to assure punch and clarity in cars, which was of course, a primary outlet for music in the heyday of AM Soul and Top 40 radio.

I agree, Berry Gordy was one of the first rock producers along with Phil Spector, Bob Crewe (4 Seasons) & Joe Meek ("Telstar") to realize that their listening audience was mostly teenagers listening to their music on cheap AM radios and phonographs.

Those classic Motown mono mixes are really works of art.. and besides for AM radio they were deliberately mixed and mastered HOT to make up for the cheap and noisy vinyl and styrene they pressed 45's on. I bought "The Motown Box" last year, and while some of those remixes sound great, others suffer because they didn't use the extreme EQ and compression that the original recordings have.

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Re: Songs that sounded "better" on AM
« Reply #78 on: September 23, 2008, 05:13:42 PM »

Let's not forget those gems from 3 dog night... I remember reading where 3 dog nights guitarist said their stuff was recorded on 8 tracks, and mixed through a 3-track console, which resulted in stereo mixes that were'nt much different than mono...plus they were compressed to hell and back

PS: All the Steppenwolf stuff was recorded in the same studio, same producer, same engineer..
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Re: Songs that sounded "better" on AM
« Reply #79 on: September 23, 2008, 08:44:45 PM »

Let's not forget those gems from 3 dog night... I remember reading where 3 dog nights guitarist said their stuff was recorded on 8 tracks, and mixed through a 3-track console, which resulted in stereo mixes that were'nt much different than mono...plus they were compressed to hell and back

PS: All the Steppenwolf stuff was recorded in the same studio, same producer, same engineer..

Most if not all of the mid-late 60s ABC/Dunhill stuff had totally different mixes for the 45 and album.  A-B them sometime and you'll notice a big difference.  Unfortunately, the masters for those 45 mixes got tossed many years ago.
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