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"HD DOA"
« on: May 04, 2007, 08:54:58 AM »

"HD DOA"

"I think of all the topics I cover the issue of HD radio is the most amazing to me. Surely the proponents know that adopting HD technology and forcing consumers to buy new sets is going down in flames... When HD proponents take a few more black eyes they may be forced to realize that HD is not the future."

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/index.html

Steak anyone ?  Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2007, 09:26:42 AM »


"I think of all the topics I cover the issue of HD radio is the most amazing to me. Surely the proponents know that adopting HD technology and forcing consumers to buy new sets is going down in flames... When HD proponents take a few more black eyes they may be forced to realize that HD is not the future."

Don't foget the next line.  It seems tome that it puts Jerry in a much more "Leonard ish" light.

"It’s simple a technical way to make existing audio sound better and allow for the creation of more sidebands that they would be wise NOT TO use."

errr.  Ok.  Decoder ring on.  Assuming he means...

"It’s simpl "y" a technical way to make existing audio sound better and allow for the creation of more sidebands that they would be wise NOT TO use."  Does his contention make sense? 

Or maybe it's transposition

It’s "a" simple a technical way to make existing audio sound better and allow for the creation of more sidebands that they would be wise NOT TO use.  Does this make any more (or less) sense?

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Re: "HD DOA"
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2007, 12:19:25 PM »

A blog from an uninformed soul (being charitable), who has no grasp of the technical aspects of the subject matter. Wow, that settles it. HD IS DEAD! I better tell all the new stations that keep popping up, manufacturers who keep introducing new products, and people who keep buying them! A MUSIC professor (now THERE'S someone who knows and understands RADIO and TECHNOLOGY) who can't write a coherent sentence, and understands nothing about RF or digital technology, thinks it would be a "bad idea" for HD stations to use their new "sidebands". Well thanks for clearing that up!

This idiot (with the blog posting) might want to understand that WORDS HAVE MEANINGS! The term "sideband" as applied to a radio signal, has a specific meaning...one which he fails to grasp!

Talk about DOA. This may be your weakest post/link yet, Pocket. If THIS is the best HD haters can come up with, well it thanks for a smile that'll last for a while!
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2007, 12:53:51 PM »

A blog from an uninformed soul (being charitable), who has no grasp of the technical aspects of the subject matter. Wow, that settles it. HD IS DEAD! I better tell all the new stations that keep popping up, manufacturers who keep introducing new products, and people who keep buying them! A MUSIC professor (now THERE'S someone who knows and understands RADIO and TECHNOLOGY) who can't write a coherent sentence, and understands nothing about RF or digital technology, thinks it would be a "bad idea" for HD stations to use their new "sidebands". Well thanks for clearing that up!

This idiot (with the blog posting) might want to understand that WORDS HAVE MEANINGS! The term "sideband" as applied to a radio signal, has a specific meaning...one which he fails to grasp!

Talk about DOA. This may be your weakest post/link yet, Pocket. If THIS is the best HD haters can come up with, well it thanks for a smile that'll last for a while!
  Cheesy

Jerry Del Colliano, Director of Thornton Executive Programs in Music Industry Clinical Professor of Music Industry

"Jerry Del Colliano is a nationally recognized expert on broadcasting and the music industry. He has enjoyed a career in major market broadcasting in front of the camera, over radio airwaves, in radio program management, publishing and Internet publishing and teaching. Respected for his vision on the future of media – new and old as they converge – his comments have appeared in a wide variety of media including network television and radio, radio stations, business and consumer newspapers and magazines. EDUCATION B.S., Temple University College of Communications, Philadelphia, PA (Radio, Television and Film), 1968."

http://www.usc.edu/schools/music/private/faculty/delcolli.php

Sometimes, you guys crack-me-up !  Cheesy


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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2007, 01:27:40 PM »

A blog from an uninformed soul (being charitable), who has no grasp of the technical aspects of the subject matter. Wow, that settles it. HD IS DEAD! I better tell all the new stations that keep popping up, manufacturers who keep introducing new products, and people who keep buying them! A MUSIC professor (now THERE'S someone who knows and understands RADIO and TECHNOLOGY) who can't write a coherent sentence, and understands nothing about RF or digital technology, thinks it would be a "bad idea" for HD stations to use their new "sidebands". Well thanks for clearing that up!

This idiot (with the blog posting) might want to understand that WORDS HAVE MEANINGS! The term "sideband" as applied to a radio signal, has a specific meaning...one which he fails to grasp!

Talk about DOA. This may be your weakest post/link yet, Pocket. If THIS is the best HD haters can come up with, well it thanks for a smile that'll last for a while!
  Cheesy

Jerry Del Colliano, Director of Thornton Executive Programs in Music Industry Clinical Professor of Music Industry

"Jerry Del Colliano is a nationally recognized expert on broadcasting and the music industry. He has enjoyed a career in major market broadcasting in front of the camera, over radio airwaves, in radio program management, publishing and Internet publishing and teaching. Respected for his vision on the future of media – new and old as they converge – his comments have appeared in a wide variety of media including network television and radio, radio stations, business and consumer newspapers and magazines. EDUCATION B.S., Temple University College of Communications, Philadelphia, PA (Radio, Television and Film), 1968."

http://www.usc.edu/schools/music/private/faculty/delcolli.php

Sometimes, you guys crack-me-up !  Cheesy




PocketRadio,

Don't fret as none of the Ibiquity execs know zip about rf engineering or even how to read a resistor or capacitor.

Ibiquity Board of Directors:

Robert J. Struble, President, CEO and Chairman of the Board, iBiquity Digital Corporation:
Bob earned his Bachelor's Degree in Chemical Engineering from MIT where he was elected into the Tau Beta Pi and Sigma Xi engineering honor societies, and an MBA from Harvard, where he graduated with high distinction as a Baker Scholar.

Thomas M. Uhlman, Managing Partner, New Ventures Partners:
Fred has an SB from MIT and an MBA from The Wharton School of Business at The University of Pennsylvania.

Walter Z. Berger, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer:
Mr. Berger is a cum laude graduate of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, with a degree in business administration. He is also a C.P.A.

Steve Fisher, Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer:
Mr. Fisher held numerous operational and financial management positions over a period of 15 years with Westinghouse Broadcasting (now CBS) including management positions in Cable, Radio Stations and Executive Vice President for the Bradcast & Media group.

Alfred C. Liggins, III, President, CEO, Radio One, Inc:
Alfred Liggins earned an MBA from the Wharton School of Business, University of Pennsylvania

Jeffrey L. Littlejohn, Executive Vice President, Distribution Development, Clear Channel Broadcasting, Inc:
Prior to joining Clear Channel, Littlejohn was the Director of Engineering for AMFM, Inc. and Chancellor Broadcasting.

Jerry A. Poch, Managing General Partner, Pequot Capital Management, Inc.:
Mr. Poch graduated cum laude from Boston University School of Law where he was managing editor of the Law Review. He is admitted to practice law in the States of New York and Massachusetts and the District of Columbia.


Not what you'd call broadcasters....

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2007, 01:40:19 PM »


Don't fret as none of the Ibiquity execs know zip about rf engineering or even how to read a resistor or capacitor.

Ibiquity Board of Directors:

Robert J. Struble, President, CEO and Chairman of the Board, iBiquity Digital Corporation:
Bob earned his Bachelor's Degree in Chemical Engineering from MIT where he was elected into the Tau Beta Pi and Sigma Xi engineering honor societies, and an MBA from Harvard, where he graduated with high distinction as a Baker Scholar.

Thomas M. Uhlman, Managing Partner, New Ventures Partners:
Fred has an SB from MIT and an MBA from The Wharton School of Business at The University of Pennsylvania.

Walter Z. Berger, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer:
Mr. Berger is a cum laude graduate of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, with a degree in business administration. He is also a C.P.A.

Steve Fisher, Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer:
Mr. Fisher held numerous operational and financial management positions over a period of 15 years with Westinghouse Broadcasting (now CBS) including management positions in Cable, Radio Stations and Executive Vice President for the Bradcast & Media group.

Alfred C. Liggins, III, President, CEO, Radio One, Inc:
Alfred Liggins earned an MBA from the Wharton School of Business, University of Pennsylvania

Jeffrey L. Littlejohn, Executive Vice President, Distribution Development, Clear Channel Broadcasting, Inc:
Prior to joining Clear Channel, Littlejohn was the Director of Engineering for AMFM, Inc. and Chancellor Broadcasting.

Jerry A. Poch, Managing General Partner, Pequot Capital Management, Inc.:
Mr. Poch graduated cum laude from Boston University School of Law where he was managing editor of the Law Review. He is admitted to practice law in the States of New York and Massachusetts and the District of Columbia.

Not what you'd call broadcasters....


The board of directors does not do product development or install systems or design receivers. They do not manage the day to day business in thier funcitons as board members. The board oversees the business, meeting perhaps quarterly. They have a very qualified engineer on the board, and that is enough for the financial and management side to have all the engineering input and interpretation they need.
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2007, 02:20:41 PM »

Exactly Dave. I'd be shocked if the board of directors of Pepsico know the "7 herbs and spices" in KFC, or if the board of directors for Boeing knows how to fly a 747. And yet both companies have done fairly well Wink

I'd rather my board of directors know how to keep the company in the black, the bottom line secure and growing, and hey...a dividend check now and then would be cool too Wink
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2007, 02:55:55 PM »

Jerry Del Colliano, Director of Thornton Executive Programs in Music Industry Clinical Professor of Music Industry
http://www.usc.edu/schools/music/private/faculty/delcolli.php

I will concede that Jerry is "Well Known".

Will you concede that industry wide,  Opinions about him vary pretty widely?  I know he has never been one of my more respected sources, even when he had "Inside Radio".  Would you also not agree there was a radio site registered to a major broadcaster that had an image of Jerry with his head... errr   where the sun don't shine ON THE FRONT PAGE?  I always got a kick out of "insideinsideradio.com".  You also know that subscriptions to insideradio.com were not allowed as a company expense at a couple of major broadcasters because his site was determined not to have value.  AFAIK, Radio Ink, Broadcasting and Cable, M Street, 100000watts.com , etc... never acheived this status. :-)

http://www.usc.edu/schools/music/private/faculty/delcolli.php
You don't suppose there are any biographies on this site that says "This employee of the college is a dolt" do you?  :-)

Of course no one on this board has ever had any spin on their resume.Smiley

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Re: "HD DOA"
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2007, 03:19:27 PM »

Sites with hdradio.com (17,200 Google hits):

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=hdradio.com&btnG=Search

Sites, including newspaper articles, with hdradio.com/rebate (85 Google hits):

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=hdradio.com%2Frebate

Statsaholic for Radiosophy.com:

http://www.statsaholic.com/radiosophy.com

Statsaholic for hdradio.com:

http://www.statsaholic.com/hdradio.com

Google Trends for "HD Radio":

http://**Please use the full length URL, as url shorteners expire**

Both Jerry and Mark Ramsey are correct in their assessments that HD Radio is DOA - the hoopla surrounding the new iBiquity rebate program and the announcement by Radiosophy concerning the new HD100 have failed to generate any consumer interest - as a matter of fact, looks as if a few consumers checked out the rebates at hdradio.com/rebate, and now the number of hits on hdradio.com has nose-dived to zero. As far as consumers are concerned, HD Radio is DOA, and that is all that matters.

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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2007, 03:50:55 PM »

Yeah HD is completely dead. Except for the new stations. And new formats. And new radios. And better sound. And multimillion dollar publicity campaign.

And sex is pointless. Except for the fun. And benefit to the survival of the species. And the bonding between lovers, which solidifies love and the family unit. Besides that.
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