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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2008, 01:46:17 PM » |
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Mike Walker
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2008, 03:38:08 PM » |
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Talk about a red herring. "Measure" (and there ARE no measurements, we all know that!) sales mostly before the truly affordable (99 dollar) car stereos with HD become available, then declare "nobody bought" the (then) nonexistent products!
I'm sure there were fewer HD Radio portables sold than Dr. Schoalls insoles, too. Wait...THERE AREN'T ANY PORTABLES YET! So NOW would be the time to take your "measurements", before the actual products hit shelves later this year!
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2008, 07:08:58 PM » |
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But have a look at this: http://www.google.com/trends?q=hd+radio%2C+hornI couldn't determine the proper spelling of ahooga, so I just left it off. However, the long term trend shows HD Radio making some progress against those horns. Just kidding! Trying to liven up an otherwise lazy HD bashing blog. Well if I were a doctor and running the code, I would have stopped the CPR about a year ago with that flat line. I've seen better EKG's on corpses before from spurious impulses.
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2008, 07:40:27 PM » |
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Well if I were a doctor and running the code, I would have stopped the CPR about a year ago with that flat line. I've seen better EKG's on corpses before from spurious impulses. If you were a doctor, you would have aborted the fetus. You're a DXer, plain and simple. You in no way represent the interests of the radio industry nor typical listeners.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2008, 08:49:24 PM » |
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As long as we're gong to use the 'patient in the hospital' analogy, I'll play along.
First of all, you just can't lump all IBOC broadcasting into just ONE patient:
Mr. HD FM, although not well enough to leave the hospital just yet...is resting comfortably, and will be just fine in time with just a little TLC.
Mr HD AM, on the other hand...well...I'm afraid it's time to call the hospital's Pastor to come to the room to administer the 'last rights of the church'.
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2008, 09:25:19 PM » |
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Well if I were a doctor and running the code, I would have stopped the CPR about a year ago with that flat line. I've seen better EKG's on corpses before from spurious impulses. If you were a doctor, you would have aborted the fetus. You're a DXer, plain and simple. You in no way represent the interests of the radio industry nor typical listeners. I think I do represent the average listener except I probably listen much more. Many of my observations as I've said before have been in my car with my car radio when I am just a typical listener, perhaps just with a little more knowledge of band conditions, skywave vagaries, and propagation, and why my favorite stations are getting interfered with. With my R390A's R-390's, SP-600's, HRO's and many other classic radios, 400' LW's, 160M dipoles, and Misek phaser I can phase most of the IBOC hash out for periods of time from seconds to minutes. But there are many times when I'm just trying to listen for pleasure and I can't listen anymore to certain stations most of the time because of IBOC's noise. How many typical listeners know the reason they can't receive it is because of noise from the adjacent radio station?. Also how many typical listeners have the equipment to be able to phase out noise? The main difference between me and a typical listener is that I have much better receiving equipment and antennas and know what is going on with all this noise and they don't. If the radio industry is going to eventually try to force all of us to go digital and make billions of existing receivers obsolete for a technology which causes more problems that it solves then you are right, I do not represent the interests of the radio industry, but then again only a small percentage of the radio industry believes in this faulty technology so maybe I am more sympathetic to the majority of the radio industry than the minority. Looking at it that way, maybe it's you guys that don't represent the interests of the radio industry, maybe you represent the interests of ummmm.... yourselves? How can you look at that graph and honestly say that IBOC is going anywhere except down the chute?
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2008, 10:07:33 PM » |
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I think I do represent the average listener except I probably listen much more. Many of my observations as I've said before have been in my car with my car radio when I am just a typical listener, perhaps just with a little more knowledge of band conditions, skywave vagaries, and propagation, and why my favorite stations are getting interfered with. With my R390A's R-390's, SP-600's, HRO's and many other classic radios, 400' LW's, 160M dipoles, and Misek phaser I can phase most of the IBOC hash out for periods of time from seconds to minutes. But there are many times when I'm just trying to listen for pleasure and I can't listen anymore to certain stations most of the time because of IBOC's noise. How many typical listeners know the reason they can't receive it is because of noise from the adjacent radio station?. Also how many typical listeners have the equipment to be able to phase out noise? The main difference between me and a typical listener is that I have much better receiving equipment and antennas and know what is going on with all this noise and they don't. If the radio industry is going to eventually try to force all of us to go digital and make billions of existing receivers obsolete for a technology which causes more problems that it solves then you are right, I do not represent the interests of the radio industry, but then again only a small percentage of the radio industry believes in this faulty technology so maybe I am more sympathetic to the majority of the radio industry than the minority. Looking at it that way, maybe it's you guys that don't represent the interests of the radio industry, maybe you represent the interests of ummmm.... yourselves? How can you look at that graph and honestly say that IBOC is going anywhere except down the chute?
You attempt to listen to Buffalo, NY from just outside Boston. That's NOT typical radio listening. Not even close to it.
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2008, 10:20:06 PM » |
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Buffalo usually comes in here like a ton of bricks here, it is a regular, it comes in better than WBZ many nights. So unfortunately does WCKY.
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2008, 12:20:47 AM » |
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I think I do represent the average listener except I probably listen much more.
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With my R390A's R-390's, SP-600's, HRO's and many other classic radios, 400' LW's, 160M dipoles, and Misek phaser I can... C'mon be truthful with us. Someone has put you up to this prank right? You can not POSSIBLY have put these two thoughts in the same post and be serious! Clouseau
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Radio is a mass medium. It plays what the most people want to hear. If you don't like what is on, vote with the tuning knob.
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2008, 08:33:23 AM » |
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I think I do represent the average listener except I probably listen much more.
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With my R390A's R-390's, SP-600's, HRO's and many other classic radios, 400' LW's, 160M dipoles, and Misek phaser I can... C'mon be truthful with us. Someone has put you up to this prank right? You can not POSSIBLY have put these two thoughts in the same post and be serious! Clouseau when I'm in my car I am the typical listener as I'm not DXing, I want to be entertained in some way or other, I like WWKB and when WCKY's IBOC is making it difficult to receive WWKB I am not entertained, I am irritated. I know why, most listeners don't, that is the only difference between me and the average listener in that situation.
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