CONSERVATIVE programmers are a disgrace

[B.B. Lean]

What you people fail to get is that many 'conservative' talkers DO spend a great amount of time talking about things other than politics.  YOU don't listen enough, or at least critically enough, to hear it.

I don't listen to Rush much anymore (work schedule won't allow it) but I can recall many times he spent talking about golf, about football, about pop culture... etc etc.

Savage?  Have you heard his show lately?  He did an hour the other day on how he wants to buy a boat.  Nothing political whatsoever.

Beck?  Spends a ton of time doing pop culture topics.

I know I'm wasting my time here - none of you will change your minds or even concede a point - but it's obvious to me you're completely ill-informed and don't REALLY listen to the hosts you constantly complain about.  Just go back to daydreaming about some fantasy host who will do the show YOU want to hear.

[Sean Gilbow]

My paycheck can beat yours...

Such an elaborate example of progressive thinking Mr. Gilbow.

It's a disgrace.

Money talks.  I have it to spend on advertising.  You don't.

[BiggusPrimus]

Money talks.  I have it to spend on advertising.  You don't.

Sadly, the folks that actually make programming decisions of import don't pay nearly enough attention to the MLM soap moguls of America.   How they can blithely walk away from all that money on the table is beyond me.

Have you considered sending them some of your detergent sampler packs?  Maybe then they'll start listening to reason.

Your friend forever,
Biggus

[Sean Gilbow]

Money talks.  I have it to spend on advertising.  You don't.

Sadly, the folks that actually make programming decisions of import don't pay nearly enough attention to the MLM soap moguls of America.   How they can blithely walk away from all that money on the table is beyond me.

Have you considered sending them some of your detergent sampler packs?  Maybe then they'll start listening to reason.

Your friend forever,
Biggus

Biggus sweetie:

I just sponsored an appearance by Stephanie Miller which filled a meeting room with a capacity for 1500 people.

I used to attend Quixtar meetings in that room five years ago.  Never were there as many people as Stephanie drew to the Makoy Center.

As for the soap mogul stuff...that would be Rich DeVos.  I have a state job which pays roughly $43,000 annually with a revenue-generating agency.  It's a matter of public record.  And you would be hard pressed to find a radio person in the Columbus market who makes that much.  They're there, but the numbers continue to shrink as companies like Clear Channel trim budgets and rely on satellite dishes with conservative talking heads.

1500 people--not bad for a station whose sound quality has been deemed inferior by pros in the market who post on the Columbus board.

The general manager has a track record.  He started Columbus' first alternative music station (locally owned).  And he has garnered advertiser and community support way ahead of where Clear Channel's progressive talk station was after just three months.  It has actually added staff, and local news and high schools sports are a major part of the schedule.

Many advertisers may blow cash on radio spots to gain customers and (hopefully) profits.  The advertisers behind WVKO see our dollars as an investment in our community.  And most will not advertise on other radio stations.

You can be as facetious as you want, but those who cut the checks to radio stations have control over those who receive checks from radio stations.  And it will take many of the posters here being the recipient of a pink slip before they actually get it.

[cm454]

Money talks.  I have it to spend on advertising.  You don't.

Sadly, the folks that actually make programming decisions of import don't pay nearly enough attention to the MLM soap moguls of America.   How they can blithely walk away from all that money on the table is beyond me.

Have you considered sending them some of your detergent sampler packs?  Maybe then they'll start listening to reason.

Your friend forever,
Biggus

Biggus sweetie:

I just sponsored an appearance by Stephanie Miller which filled a meeting room with a capacity for 1500 people.

I used to attend Quixtar meetings in that room five years ago.  Never were there as many people as Stephanie drew to the Makoy Center.

As for the soap mogul stuff...that would be Rich DeVos.  I have a state job which pays roughly $43,000 annually with a revenue-generating agency.  It's a matter of public record.  And you would be hard pressed to find a radio person in the Columbus market who makes that much.  They're there, but the numbers continue to shrink as companies like Clear Channel trim budgets and rely on satellite dishes with conservative talking heads.

1500 people--not bad for a station whose sound quality has been deemed inferior by pros in the market who post on the Columbus board.

The general manager has a track record.  He started Columbus' first alternative music station (locally owned).  And he has garnered advertiser and community support way ahead of where Clear Channel's progressive talk station was after just three months.  It has actually added staff, and local news and high schools sports are a major part of the schedule.

Many advertisers may blow cash on radio spots to gain customers and (hopefully) profits.  The advertisers behind WVKO see our dollars as an investment in our community.  And most will not advertise on other radio stations.

You can be as facetious as you want, but those who cut the checks to radio stations have control over those who receive checks from radio stations.  And it will take many of the posters here being the recipient of a pink slip before they actually get it.

Does anybody ever actually GET a "pink slip" anymore?

[BiggusPrimus]

I just sponsored an appearance by Stephanie Miller which filled a meeting room with a capacity for 1500 people.

I used to attend Quixtar meetings in that room five years ago.  Never were there as many people as Stephanie drew to the Makoy Center.

Bring me up to speed here, because I'm appallingly ignorant about these things- Quixtar is Amway, right?  If that's the case then both you and Ms. Miller deserve a hearty round of applause.  Drawing a bigger crowd than an Amway meeting is no small achievement.  Kudos!

I have a state job which pays roughly $43,000 annually with a revenue-generating agency.  It's a matter of public record.

But I assume your advertising dollars are being used to promote the multi-level marketing soap and herbal supplement products available on your website, yes?

Many advertisers may blow cash on radio spots to gain customers and (hopefully) profits.  The advertisers behind WVKO see our dollars as an investment in our community.  And most will not advertise on other radio stations.

That kind of loyalty is something you just can't buy, isn't it?  It certainly sounds like you've found the perfect audience for what you're selling.

You can be as facetious as you want, but those who cut the checks to radio stations have control over those who receive checks from radio stations.

 

Believe me, I wouldn't have it any other way, but you wound me with the suggestion I was being facetious.  I'm quite serious.  Just imagine the look on a programmers face when he opens up your package and finds a delightful sample-size selection of cleaning products, all labeled "CLEAN UP IN THE RATINGS WITH PROGRESSIVE TALK!"  That's just the kind of innovative, outside-the-box marketing that can help open their eyes to the possibilities of progressive programming.

Your friend forever,
Biggus

P.S.- You could even customize the various cleaning products with different marketing slogans.  "Smell that?  It's not just the fresh scent of pure citrus oil, but the sweet smell of ratings success!"

P.P.S.- "Lemony Limbaugh Remover!  Filled with the cleansing power of progressive talk!"

P.P.P.S.- "Bloviating Blowhard Toilet Bowl Cleaner!  Flush those right-wing talkers down the drain and leave your toilet bowl, and your ratings, sparkling fresh!"

[jaymarvin]

Just dropped by to see what was going on. There are plenty of hosts out there who do not do politics all the time. I'm one then there's Neil Rogers, Jake Hartford (late of WLS) there's KSLX in LA as well as many others. The trick is you do the "A" story of the day, and try to be as local as you can. I've said this here a million times it's not about politics it's about doing good radio. Doing non political topics doesn't mean cooking shows, and book authors. It means doing topics from a right or wrong point of view.

[Sean Gilbow]

I just sponsored an appearance by Stephanie Miller which filled a meeting room with a capacity for 1500 people.

I used to attend Quixtar meetings in that room five years ago.  Never were there as many people as Stephanie drew to the Makoy Center.

Bring me up to speed here, because I'm appallingly ignorant about these things- Quixtar is Amway, right?  If that's the case then both you and Ms. Miller deserve a hearty round of applause.  Drawing a bigger crowd than an Amway meeting is no small achievement.  Kudos!

I have a state job which pays roughly $43,000 annually with a revenue-generating agency.  It's a matter of public record.

But I assume your advertising dollars are being used to promote the multi-level marketing soap and herbal supplement products available on your website, yes?

Many advertisers may blow cash on radio spots to gain customers and (hopefully) profits.  The advertisers behind WVKO see our dollars as an investment in our community.  And most will not advertise on other radio stations.

That kind of loyalty is something you just can't buy, isn't it?  It certainly sounds like you've found the perfect audience for what you're selling.

You can be as facetious as you want, but those who cut the checks to radio stations have control over those who receive checks from radio stations.

 

Believe me, I wouldn't have it any other way, but you wound me with the suggestion I was being facetious.  I'm quite serious.  Just imagine the look on a programmers face when he opens up your package and finds a delightful sample-size selection of cleaning products, all labeled "CLEAN UP IN THE RATINGS WITH PROGRESSIVE TALK!"  That's just the kind of innovative, outside-the-box marketing that can help open their eyes to the possibilities of progressive programming.

Your friend forever,
Biggus

P.S.- You could even customize the various cleaning products with different marketing slogans.  "Smell that?  It's not just the fresh scent of pure citrus oil, but the sweet smell of ratings success!"

P.P.S.- "Lemony Limbaugh Remover!  Filled with the cleansing power of progressive talk!"

P.P.P.S.- "Bloviating Blowhard Toilet Bowl Cleaner!  Flush those right-wing talkers down the drain and leave your toilet bowl, and your ratings, sparkling fresh!"

Biggus sweetie, methinks you have raided Mama's box wine inventory.

Welcome back, Jay.

[Don62]

Just dropped by to see what was going on. There are plenty of hosts out there who do not do politics all the time. I'm one then there's Neil Rogers, Jake Hartford (late of WLS) there's KSLX in LA as well as many others. The trick is you do the "A" story of the day, and try to be as local as you can. I've said this here a million times it's not about politics it's about doing good radio. Doing non political topics doesn't mean cooking shows, and book authors. It means doing topics from a right or wrong point of view.

I find such programming far more compelling, interactive and down right more interesting to listen to than some blowhard schilling for some political party (either "liberal" or conservative).

All politics, all the time, gets boring quickly, as anyone with an ear will learn by listening to that fair-haired boy who comes on at 3:00 p.m. EST from NYC.

[Ultimajock]

Just dropped by to see what was going on. There are plenty of hosts out there who do not do politics all the time. I'm one then there's Neil Rogers, Jake Hartford (late of WLS) there's KSLX in LA as well as many others.

...KSLX is the classic rocker here in Phoenix; it's KLSX that's in Los Angeles. And it's perhaps telling that you didn't mention WGN, who regularly cleaned everyone's clock (including WLS and WLS-FM) when you were in Chicago. And, of course, there's Howard Stern, who got millions to pay good money to listen on a new radio technology...