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Author Topic: Ed Schultz Show goes to Crawford Wednesday and Thursday  (Read 1741 times)
Wilkins_Micawber
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Re: Boy does he have listeners!
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2005, 09:34:39 AM »

> > > Mike Gallagher wants people to enjoy freedom but not
> > > exercise it.
 
> That's a political opinion. You might want to post that in
> a more appropriate place.

> Pot to kettle.  At least wait a few days before you write
> something like and then in another thread you write: "It's
> pretty much a bunch of people who get tired of posting on
> Moveon.org. It will go on for a while until a conservative
> responds once to often and then the Mod shuts down the
> thread."

Kettle to drum: My comments actually had something to do with this forum. Your sidekick's comment did not.

> Gallager is second rate conservatalk.  His show, much like O'Reilly, Boortz, >Medved, and others typically appears either on a delayed basis or more likely >on a second tier AM outlet in a market - the 1-5kw secondary station, usually >owned by a major radio group and running satellite talk 24/7.  He doesn't even > air in my market at all.

I see you are distancing yourself from Bierkenstock's statement that Gallagher has no listeners. Wise move. Now you might want to stop pretending to have any knowledge about what "most" of their stations are like. They are not on the top of the heap because of the markets on which they air on a delayed basis.

> Well, it's a Christian organization if that's what you
> mean. And as you demonstrated, they endure a lot of prejudice
> > because of that.
>
> Yeah, they're terribly persecuted.  :-)

Try posting your alter ego's comments over on the urban board. Instead of dumping on Salem, say the equivalent about Radio One and see if it's called prejudice:

Bierkenstock: "He is carried by Salem Radio, a bottom of the barrel operation supported by preachers buying brokered airtime"

Try  postnig this: "He is carried by Radio One, a bottom of the barrel operation supported by black people buying brokered airtime."
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Wilkins_Micawber
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Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2005, 09:37:29 AM »

> > Why would I be surprised that a left wing blogger hates
> Mike > Gallagher?
> >
> > I know you're more of a politician than a radio pro,
>
> Wow, in the very same thread that you said: "That's a
> political opinion. You might want to post that in a more
> appropriate place."
>
> I think the thing that upsets a handful of people around
> here is that they can post their own political views, as you
> have done, and then get angry when someone calls them on it,
> particularly in correcting... well, distortions of reality.
>
> The days of people just spouting stuff as fact and not
> having to worry about someone checking it out and reporting
> back what is reality and what is rumor-mongering from
> politically biased news sources are over.
>

I am on record as saying that if I were moderating, I would quash any and all poltically incendiary comments, left OR right, and strive for a professional talk radio forum. I lost that argument. Now I'm going for balance. I am only responding to remarks others initiate.
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Wilkins_Micawber
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Test results
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2005, 10:00:37 AM »

A post was put up, a press release, of an appearance by Ed Shultz in Crawford, Texas. The poster offered no opinion and no countrary opinion showed up.

So I, as a test, posted a similar announcement for Mike Gallagher, also without commentary, about HIS visit to Crawford, Texas.

The results so far: 1) Sarcastic correction of a typo 2) A challenge questioning whether my post had anything to do with radio (despite the fact that it was a mirror image of the post above it about Ed Schultz.) 3) A derisive commentary on the incorrect belief that Gallagher has no sizable audience. 4) a bigoted remark about Salem being a "preachers" network.

It was seized upon by a virtual tag team of tolerance and diversity.
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Phillip Dampier
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Re: Boy does he have listeners!
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2005, 10:36:58 AM »

> Kettle to drum: My comments actually had something to do
> with this forum. Your sidekick's comment did not.

I'm a one man band.  I don't need sidekicks.  My posts stand on their own and represent my own opinions.

> I see you are distancing yourself from Bierkenstock's
> statement that Gallagher has no listeners. Wise move. Now
> you might want to stop pretending to have any knowledge
> about what "most" of their stations are like. They are not
> on the top of the heap because of the markets on which they
> air on a delayed basis.

I don't need to "distance myself" from anything.  Every talkshow has some listeners.  If you look at this guy's affiliate list, you'll see most of his stations are exactly as I described.  He's not good enough for the 50kw Limbaugh outlet, but he'll do okay on the 1-5kw AM running the likes of O'Reilly, Ingraham, Medved, and friends.  He's a tier two host.  If there is a top 5 show running live at the same time his show is airing, guess which one gets the live clearance or ends up on the lower powered outlet.

Ask someone on the street who Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh is, they know.  Ask someone if they know who Gallager is, they'll talk about melons and sledgehammers every time.
 
> Try posting your alter ego's comments over on the urban
> board. Instead of dumping on Salem, say the equivalent about
> Radio One and see if it's called prejudice:
>
> Bierkenstock: "He is carried by Salem Radio, a bottom of the
> barrel operation supported by preachers buying brokered
> airtime"
>
> Try  postnig this: "He is carried by Radio One, a bottom of
> the barrel operation supported by black people buying
> brokered airtime."

This is like Judge Bork complaining about the oppressed white man in America.  Ridiculous.  Just like the myth of a liberal media and oppressed conservative hosts never getting on MSM (while saying it on their MSM shows), your suggestion that someone commenting on a Christian station surviving on the "dollar a holler" format is somehow prejudiced is ridiculous.

The educational FM band is absolutely polluted by repeaters and stations that carry nothing but satellite religion and brokered programming, whose idea of local content is a pre-recorded legal ID mentioning the city of license.  The commercial brokered content stations, religious or otherwise, turn in dismal ratings.  That's not prejudiced, that's simply reality, and it doesn't matter if its ethnic, religious, or political.

I will give Salem this - at least it's not as nutty as some of the "patriot radio" networks that used to be confined to brokered time on shortwave outlets.  These people are absolutely crrrazy, and if they're not on about the Zionist Banking Conspiracy, then it's back to New World Order takeover plans.
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tbetz
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Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2005, 10:38:19 AM »

I particularly like his uniform:

> From Mike Gallagher's website:

Mike Gallagher Playing Army

He looks like a doorman.

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Wilkins_Micawber
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Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2005, 10:43:25 AM »

> I particularly like his uniform:
>
> > From Mike Gallagher's website:
>
>
>
> He looks like a doorman.
>

Finally. A sense of humor on this board!

Yes, Gallagher is a goofball, and not the brightest bulb in my opinion.

But then, people don't come to talk radio to get the host's political opinion. Both left and right come to hear someone validate the opinion they already have.
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Wilkins_Micawber
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Re: Boy does he have listeners!
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2005, 10:50:40 AM »

> I'm a one man band.  I don't need sidekicks.  My posts stand
> on their own and represent my own opinions.

Your opinions are so similar, and so rapid in response to anything conservative, one has to check the name to know which of the two you are. Especially when you attack my reply to him.

> I don't need to "distance myself" from anything.  Every
> talkshow has some listeners.  

Not every talk show is the 7th in the USA. That has to do with having ratings success in the big markets, which he has. The rest is wishful thinking.

> Ask someone on the street who Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh is, they know.  
> Ask someone if they know who Gallager is, they'll talk about melons and
> sledgehammers every time.

That would have to be an odd street full of old people to think of a marginally successful '80s comic upon hearing the name Gallagher.

> This is like Judge Bork complaining about the oppressed
> white man in America.  Ridiculous.  

It's a comforting delusion, I'm sure, to imagine that only your enemies are cabable of prejudice.
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bierkenstock
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Re: Test results
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2005, 01:19:21 PM »

I did the post about Ed Schultz as information.  

Your post was another topic.  IMHO it would have been better posted as a separate thread, unless your intent was to derail any discussion of Schultz' Crawford remote.  

By comparison the major league conservative hosts, Gallagher has a smaller audience.  Pardon my use of hyperbole.  Compared to those same major league conservative hosts (Rush, Hannity), IMHO his talent is miniscule.

Salem is a secular for-profit company.  Much of their revenue comes from paid religious broadcasts.  And their income from this operation allowed them to start their (less-profitable so far) talk radio network.  Radio and TV preachers as an aggragate are not an entirely reputable lot (even to many devout Christians).  (See Matt 7. v 15-23)

And I notice you spend a lot of time here in what you called (in another thread) "the snake pit."  (See Matt 7. v 3-5)
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Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2005, 04:31:52 PM »

> I particularly like his uniform:
>
> > From Mike Gallagher's website:
>
>
>
> He looks like a doorman.
>
I don't care what he says now, I hear him say on WABC that he didn't know why Giulliani went to Kennedy Airport when the TWA jet went down because Kennedy isn't part of NYC. How can you have any respect for such stupidity?
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coolidge
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Re: Mike Gallagher and listeners return home after trip to Crawford last Friday
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2005, 07:42:33 PM »

> But then, people don't come to talk radio to get the host's
> political opinion. Both left and right come to hear someone
> validate the opinion they already have.

For the most part that's true, although there are a few hosts that court dissenting views.  Plus, I think sharing an opinion with a host only gets the listener there to start.  Otherwise every conservative host would have Limbaugh's numbers and AAR's ratings wouldn't be so poor.
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